Wurmslayer+

[williestargell]

You need to remember at low level there are no huge hits. You are damage capped and no weapon is more affected by the damage cap than wurmslayer.

[Pint]

Wurmslayer is bad, get fast wpns

[Madbad]

wurmslayer wins fashion quest, that's the only thing you need to worry about

[Roguejm11]

Well that isn't fun.

[williestargell]

wurmslayer will always suck for agro. regardless of whether it looks good on paper it is simply too slow. The problem is the 2nd round of combat for the wurmslayer is the 3rd-4th round of combat for fast weapons.

You will virtually always lose agro unless you wait 2 full rounds to call assist as all the monks/rogues/rangers and even nukers have dropped alot of dps before wurmslayer gets its second swing in.

wurmslayer is a dps weapon, not an agro weapon. If you're too low level to proc a decent proc then fast is the only way to go.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by williestargell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wurmslayer will always suck for agro. regardless of whether it looks good on paper it is simply too slow. The problem is the 2nd round of combat for the wurmslayer is the 3rd-4th round of combat for fast weapons.

You will virtually always lose agro unless you wait 2 full rounds to call assist as all the monks/rogues/rangers and even nukers have dropped alot of dps before wurmslayer gets its second swing in.

wurmslayer is a dps weapon, not an agro weapon. If you're too low level to proc a decent proc then fast is the only way to go.

If you're relying strictly on melee threat for agro your agro will suck, period. So many players are so twinked that mobs die too fast to punish undisciplined play with deaths/wipes, thus nobody learns to manage agro here until high level and quite a few are still terrible at it then. Seriously, I've been in groups where it was impossible to get the geniuses to back off to max melee from rooted mobs until the cleric decided he couldn't be bothered healing bad DPS anymore.

A caster/hybrid willing & able to root consistently (must be higher level than the mobs) combined with a healer who has no patience for careless/shitty play is by far the most reliable agro-management available. Nothing else compares because nobody except the warrior can be bothered to care.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by williestargell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wurmslayer will always suck for agro. regardless of whether it looks good on paper it is simply too slow. The problem is the 2nd round of combat for the wurmslayer is the 3rd-4th round of combat for fast weapons.

You will virtually always lose agro unless you wait 2 full rounds to call assist as all the monks/rogues/rangers and even nukers have dropped alot of dps before wurmslayer gets its second swing in.

wurmslayer is a dps weapon, not an agro weapon. If you're too low level to proc a decent proc then fast is the only way to go.

Wrong. If you're taking procs out of the equation the ONLY thing that matters for threat potential is ratio. Speed is irrelevant until you get to higher levels and the damage bonus creeps up. Even then you have to hit level 60 db before 9/19 outclasses wurmslayer.

I don't know why everyone overlooks jade mace. Not a bad weapon for the price. No proc or trivial stats, but it's all around better than lammy for a weapons intended purpose.

Ultimately at high levels dex and procs are the name of the game. Low levels is all about steady melee threat. Ratio and haste is most important imo.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know why everyone overlooks jade mace. Not a bad weapon for the price. No proc or trivial stats, but it's all around better than lammy for a weapons intended purpose.

seriously. I have wondered this myself! it's also never talked about for a Rogue offhand either even though Seb Dirk always is. Seb dirk is 15ishk and 10/18 with some minor stats. jade mace is 1-2kish and 9/18. Jade mace is completely overlooked by most and under appreciated imho.

[Swish]

I blame the endless sea of epic MQ rogues who don't know what an evade macro is.

[ctre]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I blame the endless sea of epic MQ rogues who don't know what an evade macro is.

mehh ... macro? never needed it.. only 1 extra button push