Which is more solo friendly...

[Tulnavara]

Ogre SK is 61% penalty, Iksar Monk is "only" 44%.

[Temig]

The statement that MONKS have a 20% penalty is perfectly correct - especially given the context of correcting someone specifically referencing the class as having no penalty. Yes, Iksar Monks have more of one, but that's because of their racial penalty.

With regards to saying that an Iksar Monk is worse than other other class to have in a group... that's only if you're grouping purely based on level. Ideally, you want to group based on total character xp which ends up with everyone getting the same xp per kill even if there's a multiple level gap between characters.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Temig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The statement that MONKS have a 20% penalty is perfectly correct - especially given the context of correcting someone specifically referencing the class as having no penalty. Yes, Iksar Monks have more of one, but that's because of their racial penalty.

With regards to saying that an Iksar Monk is worse than other other class to have in a group... that's only if you're grouping purely based on level. Ideally, you want to group based on total character xp which ends up with everyone getting the same xp per kill even if there's a multiple level gap between characters.

Iksar Monks are worse than having a Pally XP wise. What don't you get? 44% penalty versus 40%. Swish said it in a tongue in check way very well. Iksar Monks on average have no clue how much they drag down a group at high levels to getting XP. Faster to have a Ranger pull in outdoor zones with Harmony, KC, CoM comes to mind, than a Iksar Monk and they have less of a XP penality.

Bottom line is a Iksar Monk is a drag on a group looking for min max XP high levels. YMMV. They end up being like a Hybrid like it or not.

[Rangerboy]

SKs are hard to play, at least I think so. I had the SK epic on the live server too and I didnt think it was all that good for the work put into it. Ratman guard sucked, took FOREVER. I think monks are funner to play, easier to level and more dps.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Danth ty =)

[webrunner5]

I have a level 105 SK on live with over 11,000 AA's, yeah really 11,000, hell I think you can go to 15k or more, and it still can't solo shit. A SK never had DPS worth a crap and never will. It is a gimped class just like a Pally.

And Damage Mitigation wise a Warrior still is a hands down winner on that part. A Monk is up there also. That is why they can Tank in KC nearly as good as a SK, Pally, and oh by the way, a Monk can actually kill something to boot.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a level 105 SK on live with over 11,000 AA's, yeah really 11,000, hell I think you can go to 15k or more, and it still can't solo shit. A SK never had DPS worth a crap and never will. It is a gimped class just like a Pally.

And Damage Mitigation wise a Warrior still is a hands down winner on that part. A Monk is up there also. That is why they can Tank in KC nearly as good as a SK, Pally, and oh by the way, a Monk can actually kill something to boot.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mine is level 100 with only 9k AAs, but if you blow your load with Visage, first spire, crimson blade, gouging blade you can do some serious burst DPS - plus with 2.0 up you're lifetapping 70% of that DPS back and don't need heals. SK is a hell of a class on live, and by far the best group tank with pally close behind and warrior needing to med for endurance on long grinds.

Anyway, that's not the point in this thread. We won't have any of that crap here. Monk is obviously a very, very strong class in this time period and it's hard for anything to compete when directly compared.

[bktroost]

Sks are great offtanks, tanks of trash on raid mobs and good for anything that doesn't hit terribly hard but needs high aggro, like Sister of the Spire and Venril Sathir... that's where they shine and really have a place in the world of EQ. Whether you get there by soloing or grouping is like focusing on what controller you want to use to turn on the TV. The real show is after 60.

That's true for most classes though, yet a lot of people quit after 60.

[Loke]

Normally Id say monk, but having helped some friends level hybrids recently theyre actually really easy to solo on. Monks are nice if you dont want to think as much and just grind, but the added utility from hybrid spells opens up a lot of options if you spend the time to maximize your efficiency. I dont have a ton of experience with leveling an SK, but pallys and rangers can solo very well if you gear and play the class to its full potential.

Personally id worry less about the leveling and decide which role you like more. Do you want to raid at 60, and if so, would you rather do it on a monk or sk? Do you like tanking or dps? Both will be able to solo, so weigh the factors other than soloing to decide which to play.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Normally Id say monk, but having helped some friends level hybrids recently theyre actually really easy to solo on. Monks are nice if you dont want to think as much and just grind, but the added utility from hybrid spells opens up a lot of options if you spend the time to maximize your efficiency. I dont have a ton of experience with leveling an SK, but pallys and rangers can solo very well if you gear and play the class to its full potential.

Personally id worry less about the leveling and decide which role you like more. Do you want to raid at 60, and if so, would you rather do it on a monk or sk? Do you like tanking or dps? Both will be able to solo, so weigh the factors other than soloing to decide which to play.

Well there is NO doubt when the Hybrid penalty comes off in Velious after a couple of months, well probably couple of years from now on here lol, we will see a LOT of SKs, Pallys, Rangers, Bards running around, including some of my lower level ones lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]