Sleeper Kill Plan!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a fucking chance, TMO will absolutely never ever ever stand idly by and let the rest of the server experience ST raid content. Their entire purpose on this server from day 1 has been to make sure other people don't get to have fun ("dominate" eyeroll) and to deny everyone else the chance to do all the end-game shit because e-penis. They worked tirelessly for years to block the rest of the server from killing in VP, do you really think they'll be like "hey everybody, have fun in Sleeper's Tomb, I know you always wanted to do this on live and have been looking forward to this for years, ENJOY!"

It's not about pixel denial, it's about content denial, and this is the ultimate content for them to deny people.

Do you have a p99 fan fiction blog I can subscribe to?

[Greengrocer]

Step 1: Kill sleeper.

Step 2: Sleeper sandwiches!

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[TrendyDru]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ftfy. Everyone else is welcome to joint raid/apply and experience all Velious content and get loots!

Even <Haggard Krew>?

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ftfy. Everyone else is welcome to joint raid/apply and experience all Velious content and get loots!

To be honest, if it wasn't for the constant cockblocking that TMO had done to the rest of us growing up on the server til now... This would almost be a good idea. Sadly, I don't know if many of us would be interested with joint raiding with TMO without first seeing some kind of classiness givin' forth by the long time running pixel queens.

Really though, isn't a bad idea, but I think its more liable to say that the rest of the server, minus TMO (and BDA is some people's cases), would joint raid before joint raiding with TMO. No offense. You guys did kind of fuck everyone over before this whole rotation, like EVERYONE, regardless of what your intentions were. Some of us, myself included, love the competition with you guys, but to become raiding buddies? ... I don't see it happening successfully.

I've been trying to get over the grudge, but its hard to forget the lack of respect you guys have shown many other smaller guilds looking to have a chance at a raid or two, and those smaller guilds I speak of are not any that I have been personally affiliated with for quite some time if ever at all.

I still love you all irl though, just not in-game.

[Stormfists]

Food for thought...

The DPS output by 200 people in PoTb gear equates to approximately 600 people in NToV/Sleepers gear.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be honest, if it wasn't for the constant cockblocking that TMO had done to the rest of us growing up on the server til now... This would almost be a good idea. Sadly, I don't know if many of us would be interested with joint raiding with TMO without first seeing some kind of classiness givin' forth by the long time running pixel queens.

Really though, isn't a bad idea, but I think its more liable to say that the rest of the server, minus TMO (and BDA is some people's cases), would joint raid before joint raiding with TMO. No offense. You guys did kind of fuck everyone over before this whole rotation, like EVERYONE, regardless of what your intentions were. Some of us, myself included, love the competition with you guys, but to become raiding buddies? ... I don't see it happening successfully.

I've been trying to get over the grudge, but its hard to forget the lack of respect you guys have shown many other smaller guilds looking to have a chance at a raid or two, and those smaller guilds I speak of are not any that I have been personally affiliated with for quite some time if ever at all.

I still love you all irl though, just not in-game.

You should have just apped TMO.

It seems its easy for you to forget the times TMO helped little guilds kill mobs or gave them away or didn't kill for 12+ hours to give others a chance.

As to becoming raiding buddies. Ask our Arch-Enemies if it was so awful.

The simple truth is the hatred of TMO is largely from people who are inexperienced with playing with us. TMO is the longest standing, most successful guild to not have a drama bomb guild split. BDA has had 2 drama explosions at the minimum. IB has had 2 or more. FE ended up joining TMO(their direct competition) over IB because they were so tough to deal with.
This success probably isn't because we are assholes.


Jus' sayin'

[Zehrikrom]

This isn't a very good plan.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should have just apped TMO.

It seems its easy for you to forget the times TMO helped little guilds kill mobs or gave them away or didn't kill for 12+ hours to give others a chance.

As to becoming raiding buddies. Ask our Arch-Enemies if it was so awful.

The simple truth is the hatred of TMO is largely from people who are inexperienced with playing with us. TMO is the longest standing, most successful guild to not have a drama bomb guild split. BDA has had 2 drama explosions at the minimum. IB has had 2 or more. FE ended up joining TMO(their direct competition) over IB because they were so tough to deal with.
This success probably isn't because we are assholes.


Jus' sayin'

I'm not saying all of you are douchebags, but you have a large amount of them inside of your guild, which doesn't seem plausible for me to enjoy being around. I've met some gems in groups and such, great people, but to actually app to TMO? Nevah.

I was always inside of a top tier guild or working my way up to join friends inside of one, so really, the whole truth behind why I dislike the TMO machine is from what I've seen endgame that you guys have done, whether it be against my own guild or the ones I've known people in that explained what happened.

You can't deny that for years, you guys did some pretty dick shit, but the whole class C and rotation bullshit kind of left it at a minimum recently, or it seems that way at least, and I offer kudos to you guys for it.
I've also raided with you guys on beta, was interesting, but I did it solely for testing purposes and I am thankful no bullshit came from it from either side of the fence for me doing so.

What I am curious about though is how cutthroat will TMO be when the whole rotation plan is skewed come Velious? Will you revert back to being dicks like before it was put in place or will you still be trying to fix your reputation and actually care for the rest of the server's players? Sometimes it pays to be nice.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

They hate us cause they ain't us! Might be people just hate you cos ya got a lotta douchbags in yer guild. And cheat a lot.

[jpetrick]

The new TMO is not the old TMO. People have the wrong idea about their leadership. Class C leaders are all currently very reasonable, this wasn't always the case. It's all the Class R guilds that have batshit crazy officers. If everyone could have seen the Class R forums you would understand this.