Pvp level limit discussion

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Grimjaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would love some good old fashioned afk bind-camp deleveling

Ya, Bamzal was a big part of all the AFK bind camps we've had here on R99.......



o wait wasn't at any of them.




try logging in and playing box, NEXT

[Quiet]

You are forgetting the EQ pvp isn't designed to be fair. The classes are imbalanced for combat against each other. The combat and imbalance in levels are not designed to provide optimal pvp. It wasn't until the WoW era criers showed up that fair and balanced pvp arrived. It added difficulty to playing the less then optimal pvp classes, which some people find fun.

[Kergan]

I vote for +/- 0 levels.

[Dany]

Still doesn't change the fact that at my level (56 enc) NOTHING LANDS on anyone even tashed (lvl 44 one).

I'm like a punching bag, with low HP... is this classic? I mean... melees just murder us by pushing key # 1 and 2.

I won't even talk about a rogue that DISC me... a real joke.

Resists are broken? /rant off

[erog84]

Originally Posted by Dany [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still doesn't change the fact that at my level (56 enc) NOTHING LANDS on anyone even tashed (lvl 44 one).

I'm like a punching bag, with low HP... is this classic? I mean... melees just murder us by pushing key # 1 and 2.

I won't even talk about a rogue that DISC me... a real joke.

Resists are broken? /rant off

Haven't been on yet with new resists, but if you are basing this off old resists, then you are crazy. Just the other day I had an ench chain mez me while I had 120 MR. He kept me mezed until he drained all my mana and then killed me.

Also alot of casters have things like GATE, and SHADOWSTEP. Rogue gets caught out in the open by lets say a group of people, they are going to get gangbanged, whereas on a caster you have a chance of gating out. EQ is not balanced for pvp, but there are still certain pros and cons to each class.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Dany [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still doesn't change the fact that at my level (56 enc) NOTHING LANDS on anyone even tashed (lvl 44 one).

I'm like a punching bag, with low HP... is this classic? I mean... melees just murder us by pushing key # 1 and 2.

I won't even talk about a rogue that DISC me... a real joke.

Resists are broken? /rant off

You mean you can't just cast 1 super low mana fast casting spell on someone with a bunch of MR gear and immediately make it so they can get mezzed, rooted, snared crippled and nuked?

Wow sounds like shit is BROKE.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Dany [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still doesn't change the fact that at my level (56 enc) NOTHING LANDS on anyone even tashed (lvl 44 one).

I'm like a punching bag, with low HP... is this classic? I mean... melees just murder us by pushing key # 1 and 2.

I won't even talk about a rogue that DISC me... a real joke.

Resists are broken? /rant off

Also mezz won't work on 55+ targets. Higher mezz has a better chance of taking over lower ones.

Need rapture at 59.

56-58 inclusive are the worst levels for an enchanter.

[Kergan]

shit's classic

Kunark was a disc murderfest.

[BardPop]

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I am just seeking enlightenment and a good discussion.

Ok, heres the issue. Your are taking a few incidents and taking them something they are not. For example, you said something like "I play a caster and couldn't land spells". For pvp it really depends what spells you are trying to cast. Just because you didn't land spells on that guy doesn't mean all spells are broken, which is kind of how it seems like from your post. Spells tend to get better as you level, at lv 10 or whatever you don't have a full spellbook with all the useful spells

Also, I have experience with twinks. Twinks are not rampant, they are just part of cb. Don't level through cb thinking you have to change it in order to level, just lv and leave like everybody does. If you want to avoid being killed take note of who is in zone. Everyone knows who the pks are, and when one of them comes in you will know who they are, look at http://r99pvp.com/showzone.php?z=Crushbone for a list of the biggest cb killas

When you see a pk just run , if you want to fight cordinate with your group to make sure they are up to it. Groups in cb consist of random people from all walks of life and it varies whether they want to fight or just 'ignore them' and keep exping like lambs to the slaughter. As someone who has leveled 6 toons through cb I can tell you that if you can't count on your group then don't try to fight, just clear out of the zone, Go exp in bb. Someone once said that cb pvp is a test of your stoutness on a pvp server, if you can't handle dying or having difficulty exping then forget it. Pvp disruptions happen all the way up to the top level, with guilds fighting over spawns or top lv dungeons such as seb

[kildone]

Originally Posted by BardPop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, heres the issue. Your are taking a few incidents and taking them something they are not. For example, you said something like "I play a caster and couldn't land spells". For pvp it really depends what spells you are trying to cast. Just because you didn't land spells on that guy doesn't mean all spells are broken, which is kind of how it seems like from your post. Spells tend to get better as you level, at lv 10 or whatever you don't have a full spellbook with all the useful spells

Also, I have experience with twinks. Twinks are not rampant, they are just part of cb. Don't level through cb thinking you have to change it in order to level, just lv and leave like everybody does. If you want to avoid being killed take note of who is in zone. Everyone knows who the pks are, and when one of them comes in you will know who they are, look at http://r99pvp.com/showzone.php?z=Crushbone for a list of the biggest cb killas

When you see a pk just run , if you want to fight cordinate with your group to make sure they are up to it. Groups in cb consist of random people from all walks of life and it varies whether they want to fight or just 'ignore them' and keep exping like lambs to the slaughter. As someone who has leveled 6 toons through cb I can tell you that if you can't count on your group then don't try to fight, just clear out of the zone, Go exp in bb. Someone once said that cb pvp is a test of your stoutness on a pvp server, if you can't handle dying or having difficulty exping then forget it. Pvp disruptions happen all the way up to the top level, with guilds fighting over spawns or top lv dungeons such as seb

What I actually said was that nothing landed. Snare, root, dot, fire nuke, lightning nuke. Only from what I read others post and say in game a twink with high MR can not be hit by any spell. Maybe they were wrong. Maybe I was just unlucky.

I don't mind dying. It actually makes my day more fun. My post was about how I could not come back and pay back this guy who never levels nor can other people come and root this tick out of the zone.

I am of a different mindset based on the many posts I have read here. The main point being about this server being designed to match the classic rules.
Also noted that resist changes may make a difference even if this throws the classic experience, in this regard, out the window.

I have also seen how a group can possibly take a twink out and how sometimes even a whole group cannot. Depends on the exact levels I guess.

In general your post has good advice and I appreciate you taking the time to reply.