History Revised: Enraptured

[Fael]

Just felt like clearing it up some, partly because sirken prefaced his ruling with "if i remember correctly."

In the big scheme of things, enraptured was a 2 month blip on the radar. Not like I blame sirken for not keeping track of every detail for every insignificant guild that occured over the 5 years or so hes been doing this.

I just felt like the details he remembered were more in line with what competition was spamming the forums with, and not what actually happened. Although Kaev remembers it differently, I recall a good faith effort on the part of the officers to try to create something.

When the going got tough, they opted to take the easy route and merge... and not to many of those in enraptured are still around to recount the details.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the entire thing was a sham.

Calling Rampage a whole new guild is a sham.

2/3rds IB leadership.
Same IB guild Leader
Same IB Raid Leaders
75%+ IB members
Same IB forums, just a new domain name
A-Team members requesting access to IB forum under new domain name (10$ fix).
Raid Leaders of Rampage with alts still tagged in IB raiding in Rampage (Kegluas on Eleet and Hokushin on Executioner) during VP suspension.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Calling Rampage a whole new guild is a sham.

They definitely aren't a new guild, they are IB minus Getsome/Lilly + A-Team + Argh/Cucs. Do I need parentheses? Fuck it, it's just math.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They definitely aren't a new guild, they are IB minus Getsome/Lilly + A-Team + Argh/Cucs. Do I need parentheses? Fuck it, it's just math.

Should have just named the guild <Operation Lilygoner> or <Getlost>

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when you dictate server rule or make a decision based on past rulings and facts, maybe you shouldn't start your reasoning with "if I remember correctly".

thats actually the exact reason that i should say that.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO leadership point blank told members to tag under Enraptured to avoid the suspension. as soon as the suspension was over, they had planned to return to TMO. the entire thing was a sham.

This of course is uncontroverted truth. No sugar coating that.

[radditsu]

i think what we all can agree on is DarkDeath is a nasal voiced cuntstain.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just felt like clearing it up some, partly because sirken prefaced his ruling with "if i remember correctly."

In the big scheme of things, enraptured was a 2 month blip on the radar. Not like I blame sirken for not keeping track of every detail for every insignificant guild that occured over the 5 years or so hes been doing this.

I just felt like the details he remembered were more in line with what competition was spamming the forums with, and not what actually happened. Although Kaev remembers it differently, I recall a good faith effort on the part of the officers to try to create something.

When the going got tough, they opted to take the easy route and merge... and not to many of those in enraptured are still around to recount the details.

I was just a scrub, barely planar level not even 50. I had very little direct interaction with any of the leadership other than the officer who tagged me (who was apparently not in on the plan to dissolve the guild.) All I know is one day we were being told we're working to become a raiding guild on our own and the next day we're told that we're substandard TMO fodder. I find it hard to come up with good things to say about Enraptured's leadership after that shit went down.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

time out.

firstly, my post starts with "if i remember correctly" not with "let me lay down historical uncontestable facts". please note that in my post i say Enraptured was created before TMO was suspended, and at no point in my post did i say Enraptured was created to circumvent a ban.

maybe i was wrong about who physically created the guild, but this part is indeed fact as i saw it happen first hand; TMO leadership point blank told members to tag under Enraptured to avoid the suspension. as soon as the suspension was over, they had planned to return to TMO. the entire thing was a sham.

I'm gonna stop you right there. At the time Zeelot and Did where telling people to join enraptured to train VP they where far from officers.

At that time they had publically "quit" the game and wanted to train IB before they got banned/left.

At no did after zeelots meltdown did the guild follow his advice outside a few others like Loly.

Saying that this was some sort of guild sanctioned event is foolish at the least.

On another topic calling Rampage a different guild is also erronious as well.

They owned the guild domain for rampageguild since the times when they called themselves Transatlantic Rampage. They have already moved over their forums and they are keeping a "private" excell spreadsheet of previous IB DKP(mostly likely A-team as well)

They are using the same forums, the same dkp, the same officers.

No one was fooled when Comcast renamed themselves xfinity why are you being fooled by this shit?

[Fael]

Blackwater is a better example Tiggles. Rape... murder... nothing a little rebrand cant fix to keep the government contracts flowing.