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03-10-2015, 05:17 PM
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03-10-2015, 03:47 PM
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The issue is that current punishments are generally ad hoc. Similar punishments have been handed out for drastically different offenses and similar offenses have merited drastically different punishments.
Without a way to differentiate the "misdemeanor" from the "felony," progressive punishments won't really work out. There's no meaningful standard. For example, many puller errors in VP are often punished with the "suspension" of a single dragon which is actually a simple recognition of "your puller messed up, so drop it" yet the language of "suspension" makes you think that the rules were violated with ill intent. Other times, puller error results in out-and-out suspension. The same is also true for intentional violations; the inconsistent standard applies there as well. Regarding toolshed's proposal, I think the community overall, including Class C, would welcome it if the proper procedures were in place to make the process more consistent, more efficient, easier to understand, fairer, and more public. Public raid petitions would perhaps go hand-in-hand with this type of system.
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03-10-2015, 04:06 PM
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Easy there champ, I only said I didn't know who you were since I wasnt sure if you were part of the raid scene, hence wasn't sure if my statement about non-raiders trying to revamp the raid rules. No need to get touchy.
I can assure you, there are large portions of both TMO and IB that likely don't know what all the rules are. I know because I was a member of IB for numerous years and was guilded with a large portion of TMO in FE. New players also pull all the time. Tagging FTE is a race, not something you wait for your most experienced members to log on for. Hell, just look at BDA. Theyre currently on suspension from sev because their puller didn't even know the zone, which is far less complicated than understanding the rules. Like I said before, this would only result in more work for the GMs as guilds would be punished/rewarded more for being suspended/getting their competition suspended, making rule lawyering much more important to a guilds overall success. Your intentions are in the right place I guess, it just isn't a good idea and doesn't solve the actual problems in the raid scene. | ||
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03-10-2015, 04:26 PM
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This is a positive, right? It ends zerg recruiting. It sounds awesome. Why yes, I did play EVE. Why do you ask? | |||
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03-10-2015, 03:57 PM
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Or maybe... The pulls people do are so ridiculous that there are so many things which could possibly go wrong and result in training the other guild(s) present that *MAYBE* we shouldn't try those tactics. *MAYBE* training the entire zone spawn in Hate, Fear, VP, Naggys Lair, Permafrost... Is something that should have high risk associated with it, not simply shrugged off as "it is the way those encounters are".
Make someone wiping you with their botched train in Hate or Fear or on classic Dragons a 4 week suspension. You will see guilds be a lot more careful or come up with a new strategy real quick. Would love to see some classic crawls, not herpderp trains.
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03-10-2015, 04:01 PM
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03-10-2015, 04:05 PM
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