Does a Ranger out dps a Warrior?

[Colgate]

it's with precision discipline

precision lasts what, 3 minutes?

on longer velious fights, they will outparse rogues by a long shot if they never fix precision

[Nocsucow]

Yea guys listen to this 14 year old that kills everything with 80 people... I've personally seen a ranger out parse a whole raid several times... the whole triple attack thing isn't even on the skill list .. monks out dps warriors 95% of the time even without triple attack.

[Veleria]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would say until triple attack on a Warrior and no Disk a Ranger is nearly equal DPS wise. Their stats are pretty close caps wise. Try having a Warrior and a Ranger in a group and see who has agro 75% of the time, the Ranger. So that tells you something right there. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The big thing is a Warrior can take a ton of damage and a Ranger can't.

Aggro is not closely related to damage dealt. A ranger can out aggro a warrior with a couple of low level spell casts. that contribute almost no damage. This is why warriors use proccing weapons for aggro. Spells are the key to aggro.

[ctre]

Hi

Well here is a thing i noted, (as my main on live was a ranger).

If the ranger tanked, there dps reduced considerably.
If the ranger did not tank, there dps was much higher.

The opposite was noted for warriors.
If they tanked or did not tank, the difference in dps was not that much.

For P99 I would like to see a ranger dps with a bow, (say a sky bow) and using epics
vs War and epics.
3 Sets of dmg to compare..

also a high agi war vs high agi ranger.. & high dex for both..
and high str war,(normal agi) vs highl str, (normal agi) ranger.
{Am courious about procs and Crits} And be nice to know.

Anybody have a table of dps for these different situations..?

[Pint]

i think warriors only have triple attack on their 2 handers atm. you need some pretty great gear in this era to be solid steady dps as a ranger, in velious when their wpn skills increase they should be able to hand with undisc'd warriors.

[Colgate]

why wouldn't they have triple attack on one handers

pretty sure the double/triple attack function doesn't take into account what kind of weapon is being used beyond melee/ranged

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Nocsucow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've personally seen a ranger out parse a whole raid several times... the whole triple attack thing isn't even on the skill list .. monks out dps warriors 95% of the time even without triple attack.

I am going to have to ask for prof on that one.

[Aaramis]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am going to have to ask for prof on that one.

Yeah, at this point in Kunark, I'd have to agree - the Warrior will most likely be on par, or slightly ahead, of the Ranger, provided that both are afforded dps roles and aren't tanking (and therefore subject to higher evades, parries, ripostes, etc.). The Warrior has slightly higher skill caps, plus triple attack. And neither class will have a dex so high that procs become very commonplace.

Come Velious, the Ranger should pull ahead ever so slightly on regular fights (mostly due to Call of Fire procs, which do add up!), and noticeably so on burns due to Trueshot.

And in Luclin and onwards, the Ranger noticeably pulls ahead for a while until later expansions when archery mastery isn't as godlike as it is when first obtained.

[Fanguru]

Errr, no sane ranger will use call of fire in any raid. 50 dd + 1sec stun is huge aggro.
This buff should only ever go to the tank, actually increasing warrior dps over ranger.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Fanguru [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Errr, no sane ranger will use call of fire in any raid. 50 dd + 1sec stun is huge aggro.
This buff should only ever go to the tank, actually increasing warrior dps over ranger.

Self-only buff.