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Old 09-28-2010, 11:45 AM
KilyenaMage KilyenaMage is offline
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The problem as I mentioned before is the fact that people are PLing/Gearing toons SPECIFICALLY just to sell them now. Just like live.

Also you don't have to have a lvl 50 to farm the 50k plat if you just purchase that too.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:46 AM
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but you have to have a 50 before you can farm the 50k for another 50..... too many 50s.

so it takes the time to level up a level 50 + the time to farm 50k to get a level 50 char... on a server where you can only play 1 character at a time.... something sounds corrupt here.
People might buy accounts to entice their friends who formerly played live to come play.

People might want a different feel for the game than they're getting with their current class.

People might want to have a class better suited for kunark.

People might want a niche class for a specific purpose (i.e. necro for farming lguk).

People might just want to play a different class every now and then since they're 50 with nothing to do.


Sure, it "sounds corrupt," but there are plenty of legitimate reasons someone might want a second 50.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:02 PM
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I just wonder how people can get a character to 50, even with power-leveling which stops being effective after a point, in less time than they could have farmed 50k. Are they doing it because the farming spots are so overcamped that people literally can't find a place to make money? It would seem to me that anyone with the capacity to routinely PL chars to 50 ought to be able to farm that amount of money in less time and with less effort. It's not as if 1-50 can be done in a weekend unless you have an entire team devoted to it, and even then I would be skeptical. Are people really making a business out of this? So far, the chars I've seen for sale were obviously someone's actual character for a while until they wanted to get rid of it, for one of the reasons mentioned above.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:11 PM
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I can understand the player who spent months leveling up a toon to 50 and decided they didn't like the class turning around to sell/trade their account. They don't want to do all of that work over again. And lots of people have played several different classes, there's rarely ever a brand newbie anymore. To say you won't group with them because they don't know what they are doing is kind of extreme. Chances are, if they can raise 75 to 150k for an account they know a little bit about what they're doing. And why buy an account you don't know how to play? What if you don't like it? That's a waste of plat. Most people stick to what they know.

On the other hand, people are leveling alts specifically to sell them now, which is a bit excessive. It's completely raping the economy sideways. To be a brand new player on here with your first toon must be hard with a bunch of powerlevel crazy account sellers and buyers offering 20k per yak. People are bored so they have nothing to do but farm plat and buy stuff for twinks. And of course other people have already touched on the detrimental effects of powerleveling in popular low level dungeons.

I'm pretty sure it encourages RMTs too. What's to stop somebody who loses a bid from creating a separate anonymous account to make a cash offer? Allowing the accounts to be sold on P99 forums makes the trades very public and easy to advertise, which may get the attention of less than desirable individuals offering cash trades. Maybe I need my tin-foil conspiracy hat, but some people have already said they have received private messages or tells with cash offers.

I am hoping all of this will slow down when Kunark comes out. People are bored now, with Kunark they'll grind to 60, start their Iksars, or be concerned about raiding high level content again.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:31 PM
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I think it's a bit extreme to say that account trading is "raping the economy."

80% of my time lately is spent selling/buying things. I haven't noticed any "raping" going on.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:32 PM
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Account selling was never legal on live, it happened, but if you got caught, the account was banned.

Yes, there are many reasons why one would want to play a different class. there are different reasons why someone would want to quit also. those reason don't justify the selling/trading of accounts.

You are bored with your fully decked out uber l337 lvl 50 toon... roll an other one, I seriously doubt any of those transferred accounts have all toon slots filled. that's the intended use of the game, not selling/buying accounts. It's pretty obvious to me, and most of us here played on live back in the days and know this. why it's even being debated is beyond me!

the trading of accounts has the same kind of impact on the game as dual-boxing, yet dual boxing isn't allowed (even if anyone who plays a bit can tell lots are doing it). There are no reasons (subscription fees) here to allow dual-boxing, there shouldn't be any to allow selling of accounts, RMT or not (which we will never know for sure).


I'm sure the team has a reasoning as to why they let the selling of accounts happen, I just fail to see it.

just don't come and say it's classic, cuz it's not. what's classic is your #@!#$ getting banned for trying.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:33 PM
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People might want a different feel for the game than they're getting with their current class.

People might want to have a class better suited for kunark.

People might want a niche class for a specific purpose (i.e. necro for farming lguk).

People might just want to play a different class every now and then since they're 50 with nothing to do.


Sure, it "sounds corrupt," but there are plenty of legitimate reasons someone might want a second 50.
Why not play this 2nd character on the account they already have?
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:41 PM
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Why not play this 2nd character on the account they already have?
Because they can't buy a level 50 character and transfer it into the account they already have.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:43 PM
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I just wonder how people can get a character to 50, even with power-leveling which stops being effective after a point, in less time than they could have farmed 50k. It's not as if 1-50 can be done in a weekend unless you have an entire team devoted to it, and even then I would be skeptica
I PL'd my roommate's monk from 1-47 in 2.5 days with my druid. Considering we werent online like 20+hrs a day, 1-50 could be done easily in a weekend with just a druid, any other classes would just expedite the process.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:51 PM
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I PL'd my roommate's monk from 1-47 in 2.5 days with my druid. Considering we werent online like 20+hrs a day, 1-50 could be done easily in a weekend with just a druid, any other classes would just expedite the process.
Having a druid around is just great. Glad the wife agreed to be one and not her beloved cleric. This selfishly lets me be my old pally. In a duo... we're still raking in the xp with me doing most of the dmg! (Really paid to spend a week in the EC tunnel and get that GB)

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