Could The Hole become a popular grouping spot?

[GinnasP99]

My main problem with the hole is that the key isn't soulbound.

[Pint]

The hole is a great zone but a Cr in the hole can be a real hassle for players who are leveling up and don't have a lot of resources, a Cr in KC takes 5 mins regardless of where you died in zone.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

KC is crowded, you think it could ever be possible for the hole to become a populated late 40s-mid 50s leveling spot if it got enough traction?

Part of the reason it's alluring is that it isn't over populated. Also KC <> Old Paineel is quite the case of one extreme to the other. Maybe you should be comparing KC with CoM for that level range and population.

Specifically concerning 40-50, you have to think of the Hole in three level sections.
A) 40s entrance
B) 50-55 castle wing, undead village, waterfall
C) 55-60 undead tower


B and C also require people to be paying attention. AFK Clerics/Wizard/Mage and lazy Monks need not apply. And therefore we can always count on P99 to never to have over population in the Hole.

[Swish]

If you want to reimmerse yourselves, don't level your alts to 60... keep a good range, wait for winter and re-explore Velious properly.

KC is terrible, especially if you're an LFG tank.

[Ravager]

Probably my favorite end game zone because the crawl is so fun and the loot is pretty decent. Not the best drops compared to other dungeons, but quantity makes up for quality, plus there's still a couple upgrades for people there.

But if you're the sort who goes to KC sits down at the zone in and types /lfg, The Hole probably isn't for you.

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to reimmerse yourselves, don't level your alts to 60... keep a good range, wait for winter and re-explore Velious properly.

KC is terrible, especially if you're an LFG tank.

I made this thread since my ranger hit 51 and actually have been saying I should probably just hang him up till velious so I don't waste my time being jaded when I could be having fun in winter wonderland.

[Raghnar]

Hole Secrets:
1) Even melee can get out without a porter - It takes a good group (not great just good) to get to the teleport room.
2) Bring an enchanter that isn't afraid to charm. There are a couple named mobs that are rogues and backstab for 400+.
3) Bring a warrior that isn't afraid to pull. 8 mobs is not too many.
4) CRs are easy - A level 1 rogue that worhips Brell Serellis can make it all the way to the bottom of the Hole. Only rats and ghosts are aggro and they do not see through sneak/hide. With the right macro, you can drag the whole group up in one shot.

[harnold]

yeah, fuck all those lazy pieces of shit in KC! the reason nobody goes to the hole is because everyone else except me is lazy!!

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by harnold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, fuck all those lazy pieces of shit in KC! the reason nobody goes to the hole is because everyone else except me is lazy!!

Your post history is incredibly toxic and snarky. I think you'd be a lot happier if you started acting nicer towards others.

[Messie]

As a fan of The Hole, this thread is pretty great. Tuljin and Raghnar particularly had some great info on the zone I did not know. I'm thinking we should get this group going! I have quite a few friends who I already go to The Hole with regularly but we always seem to have a few spots open.

With that said, anyone who wishes to try to get a group together feel free to message me anytime !