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Old 09-24-2010, 06:19 PM
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-What have we learned today class?
Absentia is an RP fag.

(see, I can talk in bold too)
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Old 09-26-2010, 02:50 AM
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herp derp
..for some reason I remembered poon as a 10 damage piercer - been a while here guys!
Ummm.
Maybe the psd is better than a poon in mainhand, but I would test it before I'd bet on it. FYI Noselacri, on p99, the crystalline spear (13/30) out dps's skull fanged stiletto (12/22) by far (according to parse), and that is a similar ratio downgrade per damage stat increase. ..before you go calling me a twat sir, I invite you to run a parser and learn some basic fucking combat mechanics as they apply to p99. Bitch.

In general on p99: sacrifice ratio in mainhand for a higher damage stat, and ratio is king in offhand. There is no rule about needing a low-delay or high delay weapon in either hand outside of generally wanting a better ratio, especially in the offhand.

@Nox I do not believe that delay affects rate of backstab, although I haven't tested this. However, I do believe that haste does affect rate of backstab, and would be interested in seeing some data to corroborate or disprove this hypothesis.
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Old 09-26-2010, 03:10 AM
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I definitely remember haste affecting combat abilities for as long as I can remember, not sure if thats here also since I havn't gotten my melee alts to a point where I'm getting hasted in groups [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-26-2010, 08:52 AM
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@Nox I do not believe that delay affects rate of backstab, although I haven't tested this. However, I do believe that haste does affect rate of backstab, and would be interested in seeing some data to corroborate or disprove this hypothesis.
I switched my Gloomwater Harpoon to my main hand last night and used an Obsidian Shard or Jambiya in my offhand, depending on whether I wanted to use a proc or not. No problems with aggro at all.

As far as delay affecting rate of backstab, I did not notice a difference. Now, I don't have any hard data to back that up, but I seemed to be able to backstab just as often as before even though the poon's delay is greater. I did notice an overall delay in normal attacks, but that is to be expected.

Also, as expected, increasing my main hand weapon damage from 8 to 9, did increase my backstab amount. I think I was maxing out around 86 points where I was only getting 81 before making the switch.
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Old 12-17-2010, 03:47 PM
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As a noob to EQ my opinion may not be worth much, that being said here goes.

my 30 rog MH gloom OH PSD I BS for over 100 with barb race and 179 str without buffs. I have no haste items, I get roughly 2-3 BS a fight depending on con of mob/ group classes. Rog is the best dps hands down I easily take 30-40% of total HP of a mob alone between BS and dmg output without haste. If I switch for faster dmg output I lose a great deal of BS dmg. I have yet to use a proc weapon, and have rare issue of aggro. Which is easily solved by turning off atk moving back two steps and re-engaging, sneak hide macro does not always remove agro , it can fail even trained as high as lvl permits. Turning off atk always removes agro for me , I take maybe two to 6 hits during this if the tank is having agro control problems. Normally I do not care because I can take the hits until tank can regain agro. While still dealing massive dmg , which is the goal of the DPS role in the group anyway.
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:00 AM
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Just adding my opinion on a few things and how they work on P99, as I never played a rogue on live:

I used a Burning Rapier on my offhand for probably three months and never found it to pull any sort of extra aggro due to the proc. I assume it does somewhat, but it was never enough to be noticed. That includes using it in Fear/Hate/Sky where aggro is a big deal.

I've always been of the school that top damage in main hand and best ratio in offhand does a good rogue make. The best combo in the game for a rogue is the Efreeti Warspear/Bone Razor.

Backstab refresh is 8 seconds. With Swift Like the Wind it is significantly lower.

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Old 09-26-2010, 04:03 AM
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Has anyone nabbed a war spear yet trimm?
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:19 AM
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Im a ranger, and I out dps most rogues, jus sayin =P ......but i have to have a fuckin dog do most of the damage =(
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:21 AM
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o hasbinbad, by "war spear" do you mean that efreeti war spear? if so yes, if not then i totally misread the question to trimm hehe
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Old 09-26-2010, 04:26 AM
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I think there is at least one in IB, I'm not sure who has it.
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