What's live like?

[Tyym]

Remember you well Camien. Shoot me a tell here on Morphius, Tempyst or Liquidreach.

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[ko37qtl]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate what everyone has posted in this thread

Same here. I left in 2005 because of this trend and it seems to have sadly continued apace.

[Speedi]

Raiding on live is fun, (alot more challenging than tank & spank classic EQ raids). As for the group game, it sucks sometimes cause of the mercs/boxing. What makes MMO's fun (to me) is people. And mercs/boxing killed alot of the social part of the game. I stopped playing live on a regular basis and started here on p99 at the end of august 2014. The group scene on p99 is more fun for sure. As for raiding on p99, with the drama you have somtimes etc. Thats when I prefer raiding on live.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@people who have played in the last 6 months.

I played it about 6 months ago maybe. I exploited the free heroic level 85 for two characters. If it's any indication how successful that was, I enjoyed hte game leveling them from 1 to 70, but quit fairly quickly after 85. Of course, I had been playing a while, so was probably burnt out. However, I did have a faint sinking feeling skipping past the 15 levels. Tragically, I had a lot of nostalgia for 70-85. Still, there're 15 more and much more content I haven't seen, so I think the reason I left was burnout. Keep in mind I've played this game off/on since 1999, so I'm very familiar with "burnout". Burnout happens to me usually after about 2 months.

What's the game like? Umm, different than p1999! One of the things which I think should be brought up is that live is just as grindy as it has ever been, despite it having in-game maps, dozens of other addon windows, no coin weight, items not stored on corpse, summoning corpse to GL, auto-mercenary to play with you, instances, spreadsheet items/classes and so on. I mean, many will tell you live is superior to classic for these reasons and others, but let me tell you, it's still grindy, especially at hte upper levels where you start really feeling it.

And another thing unstated, I hate the new item window! The older one, up through SOD or so, was better. And all of the windows and hotkeys very much started to feel bloated to me.

I want to say EQ lacks a lot of polish compared to other games. The feeling I get is they grabbed all of hte talent and moved htem to other departments - EQ Next, Landmark, PS2, H1Z1, EQ2, etc... Expansions seem shallow from my vantage point.

It all reads bad, but to put it straight, you should try Live if you haven't. Instead of getting opinions from people like myself which may not apply to you, go try it and see for yourself. And to get the full flavor of hte game you should subscribe, although it's more important 80+ than pre-80 because I think you only really notice when special augs and higher tier items aren't wearable. And another thing is you can't have the tier 5 mercenary. Probably other things too.

Don't be afraid to Box. Nowadays, for a midlevel player, boxing opens up more of the game. And even though there're still some levelling players, it won't always be easy to find groups.

[MilanderTruewield]

Yeah, but you can't really keep a max level/aa character on live unless you level it up, which is outside of raiding. When I explored P99, it had everything I absolutely loved about classic EQ. Now, the raiding scene is completely toxic, and I don't think I could be a hardcore raider here if you gave me 1mill pp. I was a hardcore raider on live, but this poopsocking, jav spamming, CoTH ducking, etc was NOT what we did on live.

Whatever happened to your guild raiding at certain times, say, 8pm est on mondays, wednesdays and saturdays or something, and you send out trackers to find what was up, identify a target, and mobilize on it? Simple. Fuck batphones. Fuck socking. If you're on and it's raid time, then you mobilized. If it's not your guilds raid night and it was someone else's, and they see a target, oh well, they got it.

Hell, on live the only things EMarr had a rotation for were Trakanon and VS. That's it. The rest was like I outlined above. And the raid scene there was good. I remember racing to ToV to see who would be the first to down Aaryonar for that week (on Emarr, whoever got Aary got NToV for the week). #ClassicEQ

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still randomly play. Don't have latest expansion.

Auto-granting was necessary to smooth the progression to the current game. Grinding those first 6,000 AAs was just a hugely tedious aspect of getting to experience the "end-game", and probably 50-75% of those AA lines are necessary to function for your classes purpose. Especially considering there are another 8,000 AAs you need to grind out.

Yea, it was rough for the people who had come back recently and were regrinding AAs but... it was the best decision they could do to encourage new players to actually join the game and create a character to reasonably get to the current content in non-neckbeard amounts of time.

Autogranting only goes up to 85. And it only applies whne you're subbed. Now, I was playing when it went live. I understand exactly WHY they did it, as you state above, but I don't necessarily agree it's the ONLY way to do it. The point where I think I disagree is AUTO-granting. The problem with autogranting is the player might not be as familiar with the AA's, since they're auto-granted. This is a problem because some of the AA's are castable abilities or effects or special innates. If a player researches the AA's then this isn't a problem, but if they don't then it's. I imagine it's not a problme at first, but if a player levels up really fast, they're going to have a mountain of AA's they're not using effectively. The problem is there're so many AA's. In hte past, AA's were introduced much more slowly because leveling up was a slow process capped by expansion releases. This allowed players to really dig deep into them. My concern is those AA's won't get used by new players at times when they absolutely need to know how to use them.

Another thing is, if this hasn't already been done, why's there no way to list AA's according to whether they have a hotkey? I remember asking this question back when I was playing. I never checked for any replies. I'm unsure if there's any ability to do that now.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was fun when you could supertwink an alt with raid gear that you solo'd/boxed yourself. But defiant gear took that fun away.

I suppose it's ok now if you just want something very laid back to do. Mercs and guild lobby give you instant access to 96% rezzes and cheap corpse summons, so there's nowhere near the risk of P99.

Want to add 70+ magic items are MUCH better than the defiant counterparts. The defiant are dirt cheap in bazaar and relatively plentiful, but inferior by comparison, especially ~90.

So just want to say the game can have that "twink" flavor IF you have a very high level main like 85+ with all the aa's. Then you can get the 70+ items and twink your alt. The higher your alt is, the higher (or richer) your main will need to be to twink them.

OF COURSE, since boxing is so "easy", it's probably faster to powerlevel alts than to twink them. This is unfortunate in some ways, since I actually agree with you: twinking is fun! BUT one caveat: It requires more exertion to box or powerlevel. Soloing, by comparison, is more natural and fun. SO it's not a done deal that powerleveling your alt is what you'll ALWAYS do.

I did box on live last time I played. It's not necessarily an evil thing./

[Clark]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@people who have played in the last 6 months.

Has to be terrible.

[coki]

If you don't sub to live and have the good BOTS, you're gonna have a bad time

[MilanderTruewield]

Boxing is a bad thing if that's all anyone does and you actually expect a social game to be... well, social.