Curious about opinions re: large cash drop while afk

[fadetree]

Seems like it could have been agreed upon before anyone went AFK, for starters, since you guys were explicitly there for the cloak?

[bulbousaur]

We were there for the crypt camp, all of it.

[Jontheripper]

Nah when you go afk you dont go begging for loot dropped by mobs you didnt even help kill. But at the same time if someone in the group needs it to wear the only decent thing to do is pass it on to them

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Jontheripper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah when you go afk you dont go begging for loot dropped by mobs you didnt even help kill. But at the same time if someone in the group needs it to wear the only decent thing to do is pass it on to them

Nah, thats not a trivial place to get into and if you helped fight in, you shouldn't be robbed of a chance just because you had to go pee. It would not have even been a question in a group I ran. For a droppable, I would have held rolls until all were back. If it's nodrop, then you just gotta do what you gotta do. Even then I would have had somebody do an extra random for the other person, just in case they got back in time.

*edit* of course, it depends on why they went AFK and how long. If they said, 'well, i'll be back in a while, I gotta do something while we wait', and they were gone longer than a normal spawn and they missed it, oh well. But if they said, 'afk for a min, gotta pee' or the dog needs to go out or something like that I would have held rolls.

[Jontheripper]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, thats not a trivial place to get into and if you helped fight in, you shouldn't be robbed of a chance just because you had to go pee. It would not have even been a question in a group I ran. For a droppable, I would have held rolls until all were back. If it's nodrop, then you just gotta do what you gotta do. Even then I would have had somebody do an extra random for the other person, just in case they got back in time.

*edit* of course, it depends on why they went AFK and how long. If they said, 'well, i'll be back in a while, I gotta do something while we wait', and they were gone longer than a normal spawn and they missed it, oh well. But if they said, 'afk for a min, gotta pee' or the dog needs to go out or something like that I would have held rolls.

Ya i didnt read OP closely enough, if the group went afk waiting on the mob to spawn then ya they just should have waited for everyone to get back before rolling..

[Whirled]

Next level of NBG. I tend to ask if ppl play more/less. If they're casual like me & something uber drops; I figure the dude playing more hours would benefit greater than my 0-3 hours a day. So it's a flip/flop kinda theory depending the situation.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

NBG really shouldn't exist in PUGs unless it's for a class spell 51-54.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NBG really shouldn't exist in PUGs unless it's for a class spell 51-54.

NBG would be equally inequitable in those situations as well. Just as an enchanter has no "need" of a fungi, a monk has no "need" of torpor (within the context of NBG), but both could improve their character comparably by winning either because of the power of the free market to convert the latent value of those items into real utility ^^

Now if the spells or fungi could not be traded and the items were class restricted, then it would not make sense to award to someone who could not use it, nor would it even be rational for them to want it in the first place since their character would truly have no way to benefit from the item.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NBG would be equally inequitable in those situations as well. Just as an enchanter has no "need" of a fungi, a monk has no "need" of torpor (within the context of NBG), but both could improve their character comparably by winning either because of the power of the free market to convert the latent value of those items into real utility ^^

Now if the spells or fungi could not be traded and the items were class restricted, then it would not make sense to award to someone who could not use it, nor would it even be rational for them to want it in the first place since their character would truly have no way to benefit from the item.

Think you're missing the point of 51-54 spells/Wu's staff vs fungi/torpor

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think you're missing the point of 51-54 spells/Wu's staff vs fungi/torpor

It is possible. What is the point that you are trying to illustrate? That altruism has a threshold based on relative wealth (i.e. You do not mind passing the lower valued items to someone else because it's value a insignificant compared to your total wealth) and/or you don't want to invest the time to sell lower value items in EC?

I can understand all of those attitudes, but that doesn't make NBG equitable. It just make you either a charitable, successful or lazy person ^^

The value of the item is inconsequential so long as it exists ( i.e. It can be traded)