coming back from a long break, don't have any toons. can't decide on blue or red

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue economy is basically fucked due to the time it has been around. The economy isn't accessible to any new players.

Complete opposite... you can ECQuest for a few days and have 10k, literally... I went from one hand out (jagged chokdai spine) on my rogue to flipping into 10k between gear and plat... I mean honestly... it's absurd the tools at our hands with auction tracker and wiki and such, forums etc.

On the other hand, blue is vastly broken in terms of grinding/grouping. No one has incentive to group because they are either a) being powerleveled by friends/guildies or b) twinked to hell and don't want you mooching their solo xp

Red on the other hand has incredible incentive to group and level together without need for PL with bonus xp for pairing up and grouping, and the added excitement of not-so-twinked groups getting jumped by a twink or two and duking it out etc.

I'd go red all day, but if you want early glory (which is a bit boring) go blue for easy gear and plat. People will help on red but you won't get gear/plat as quickly IMO

[pheerie]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Complete opposite... you can ECQuest for a few days and have 10k, literally

New players are probably wanting to kill stuff in Everquest, not sit around flipping loot in the EC tunnel like some reality show on the better homes and gardens network.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New players are probably wanting to kill stuff in Everquest, not sit around flipping loot in the EC tunnel like some reality show on the better homes and gardens network.

I call COMPLETE B.S. on this....


Evidence: number of people who sit around begging for buffs and gear... an hour of begging one day plus an hour of flipping items once ever -5 days of play time = more gear upgrades more rapidly than you could likely get even playing 50+... it's just absurd.

I was a master at trading back on live but the amount of farming and how far gone the economy is at this point from how long its all been on farm status and how top heavy the server is goes beyond anything imaginable on live.

Sounds like someone is ungrateful for the gift horse or just clueless... honestly I could spend a week playing 1-2 hours a day and between donations and flipping gear, have a rogue epic MQ... in a week... on a lvl 1 rogue... seriously.

The alternative is I play naked to grind getting the shit kicked out of me solo because everyone else is twinked or powerleveling and I'm a lonely scrub in leather armor with rusty daggers... and in a week of playing 1-2 hours a day I'm level 10-15 with no gear, and level capped bind wound skill... or I gnoll fang to level 20ish and hit a wall with no gear *shrug* I think I don't mind playing reality better homes and gardens as you put it, for a week to have financial independence to do pretty much anything I want...

Honestly you sound like someone who hasn't played new on the server from a fresh start in a long time... because I did this all 10 months ago and just came back and it's only gotten more awesome/insane. The economy is PRIME for newbs. But leveling is miserable and lonely without a few set friends who play specifically to play with you.

Meanwhile on red I'm lucky to be gifted a few decent items, lootwhore my way to stacking up a couple hundred plat I save for spells and essentials, not twink gear for myself, and have 10x better times grouping and leveling, with no ECQuest *shrug* red is by far the superior classic experience for someone starting ground up right now on p99, just to give an unbiased opinion from a true noob. Honestly by 20 or so you'll have similar gear with generous people around on both servers, you'll just be able to advance further more quickly and easily on red, and make more friend who play with you as mains, not just a bunch of alts you're lucky to get to grind with form time to time if you're a newb.

[pheerie]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
New players are probably wanting to kill stuff in Everquest, not sit around flipping loot in the EC tunnel like some reality show on the better homes and gardens network.
I call COMPLETE B.S. on this....


Evidence: number of people who sit around begging for buffs and gear... an hour of begging one day plus an hour of flipping items once ever -5 days of play time = more gear upgrades more rapidly than you could likely get even playing 50+... it's just absurd.

I was a master at trading back on live but the amount of farming and how far gone the economy is at this point from how long its all been on farm status and how top heavy the server is goes beyond anything imaginable on live.

you are an idiot. you clearly didn't read my post, which was a reponse to you saying we should "ECQuest" to catch up. some of us dont care to sit around begging or flipping or doing anything in the ec tunnel. we want to go out and kill stuff with our limited time.

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by pheerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue economy is basically fucked due to the time it has been around. The economy isn't accessible to any new players.

This is not accurate at all. The opposite is true. The amount of really great melee weapons you can get for 200p or under for example is absurd and not anything at like it was on live.

[aborted]

I loved UO, never played after trammel though. Pvp on UO was amazingly fun but i have also had alot of fun on EQ pvp. EQ pvp isn't fair most of the time but it does add a layer to the game none the less. gl

[TheDoja]

Been playing DAoC Genesis server while waiting on uthgard

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by Haymaker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not sure which server to play. any advice? pros, cons?

Roll caster on red around GFay this weekend -- should be groups for you.
Join guild/make pals.
Don't look back...

[Duckwalk]

Rolled monk/shm combo with a friend on blue. Were pretty much immediately handed vanilla gear and in cases Kunark gear. Duo'ed to the mid 50s over several weeks while avoiding hybrids and lazy players that spent most of thier time afking. Decided not to pursue Blue raid scene as we had no interest in poop socking, rule lawyering or dealing with any other part of the massively bloated Blue end game.

Rolled solo Necro on Red. Over approximately 7-8 play sessions now lvl 46. Still mostly naked but starting to farm my own gear. Killed by twinked PKs maybe 4 times. Out leveled them pretty quick. Constantly /ooc looking for groups which happen frequently and are not as discriminating to class or level as blue because of exp bonuses. Spent 90% of time in groups. Lower population so most camps are open.

Both Blue and Red have horribly toxic elements to them. Red marginally more noticeable in game because of global ooc.

[Milton]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rolled monk/shm combo with a friend on blue. Were pretty much immediately handed vanilla gear and in cases Kunark gear. Duo'ed to the mid 50s over several weeks while avoiding hybrids and lazy players that spent most of thier time afking. Decided not to pursue Blue raid scene as we had no interest in poop socking, rule lawyering or dealing with any other part of the massively bloated Blue end game.

Rolled solo Necro on Red. Over approximately 7-8 play sessions now lvl 46. Still mostly naked but starting to farm my own gear. Killed by twinked PKs maybe 4 times. Out leveled them pretty quick. Constantly /ooc looking for groups which happen frequently and are not as discriminating to class or level as blue because of exp bonuses. Spent 90% of time in groups. Lower population so most camps are open.

Both Blue and Red have horribly toxic elements to them. Red marginally more noticeable in game because of global ooc.

Red is a blast, I played on blue when I first started, rolled red at random one day, never went back. Well, I did this one time but I think I logged on once, ran to MM, 47 people in zone, got on a CE grp list at position 15, waited for 30 mins and then logged off forever sayin to myself "Why the fuck do people play on blue?"