Dear Elspeth

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this list is passer rating, QBR is a stat ESPN made up a few years ago that takes more than passing stats into consideration. these are all time stats and the numbers are what they are.

That's the thing, they aren't just what they are. There are a reason guys like Dalton are on this list, and someone like Fran Tarkenton or John Elway is not. The current NFL has had about 100 rule changes in the last 10-15 years to make it easier to pass the football which has in turn lead to inflated passer stats. It's like the HR totals in the baseball steroid era...you aren't comparing apples to apples.

A much better rating would be something like WAR in baseball that takes into account league averages and a player relative to them. Then you'd see about 75% of that list change. Marino's numbers were silly compared to his peers but look just above average now. Can you honestly with a straight face say that Chad Pennington is a better QB than Dan Marino? That is essentially what you're doing when you defend that list as having any type of real world application in regards to measuring skill.

[daasgoot]

chicago bears best team in the league.

their 4 losses have been tactical losses.

just wait, you'll see.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

chicago bears best team in the league.

their 4 losses have been tactical losses.

just wait, you'll see.

lol

[Elspeth]

if my tactical losses you mean your o-line cant block and your QB is mediocre at best, then yes, you are correct.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if my tactical losses you mean your o-line cant block and your QB is mediocre at best, then yes, you are correct.

that is exactly what i meant.

tactical 7 year contract with shitty doosh cutler.

tactical.

[Elspeth]

yeah man, i couldnt believe when they gave him that deal. guy has no fire at all, has the same blank look on his face whether they win or lose.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

has the same blank look on his face whether they win or lose.

this one?

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[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Elspeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah man, i couldnt believe when they gave him that deal. guy has no fire at all, has the same blank look on his face whether they win or lose.

Cutler isn't bad, as you mentioned his o-line sucks. Crappy teams make the quarterbacks look bad. There are only a handful of quarterbacks that can perform well with a bad o line. Brady is a good example this year. Then you have teams like the Seahawks that make mediocre quarterbacks look good like Russel Wilson.

[Mac Drettj]

move this to off-topic eharmony subsection plz

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

move this to off-topic eharmony subsection plz

lmaoooo