Putin for President

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your money is paying for the US military to play world police all over the world, including Europe and Japan, which have enough money for their own militaries but don't bother because they can just use ours.

If you lived in a country like Canada, Australia, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, etc, etc, you'd be paying a similar amount of taxes but you would actually be getting something out of it. Healthcare, government-funded post-secondary education, infrastructure.

Ask yourself, which side of the aisle serves the military-industrial complex? Both of them, really. But "sissy liberals" are a little less gung-ho about interventionism and defense spending, aren't they? Obama tried to enact $1 trillion in defense spending cuts, but republican congress capped them at $496 billion.

This is a tiny fraction of overall government spending, but the right-wing spin machine would have you believe it's all the government does. Most of that money is going to old people, or is being stolen by health-insurance companies / healthcare providers. Next time you get in your pickup truck to go club some welfare queens, I suggest you drive to your nearest retirement community.



"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do" -Daywolf

Except I'm a libertarian who doesn't believe in the vast majority of foreign entanglements we are involved in so literally your entire essay is incorrectly addressing me.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do" -Daywolf

Actually my vote goes for volcanoes by far. by far by far. Odd that isn't much of an issue. Anyway you skip my whole point, I say Putin looks so good because 0bama looks so bad. That's so obvious. And 0bama tried to play the Reagan comparison game like every president has done since Reagan. But you gotta go back to Reagan's dealings with the USSR, how the Russian leaders were completely fuming how they would give so much away in negotiation while Reagan gave virtually nothing. Reagan was the cool operator, and a genius in international affairs. Not a great actor, fur sure haha, but the man was one of the top influential people of the 20th century where it comes to world leaders. Weather you agreed with him or not, that is undeniable.

[Sidelle]

Gonna keep treating this like a mock Putin thread. Some of y'all being too serious.

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[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I pay close to 60% in my income to some sort of tax, be it MD (hugely liberal) state tax, baltimore city tax, property tax, federal income tax, property tax, different licensing fees that are just taxs disguised as fees. What do I get in return for this? Some roads that were paved a couple of decades ago? A police force that doesn't do shit to stop rampant theft where I live? A bunch of subsidies for people who willingly choose not to work? Cool story. Fuck taxes, fuck liberals. That is all.

Who did you vote for?

[Tewaz]

You don't have a votesky to give bro, he always had it.

[Rust1d?]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have a votesky to give bro, he always had it.

That is so.....making me cry!

[Rust1d?]

First off, Reagan was fucking terrible. All he did was spend money on useless bullshit to force the USSR to spend more on defense. Remember Star Wars program? Gorbachev wanted to end the nuclear race, but Reagan would not give up his star wars program.

The U.S. was running a surplus before Reagan, then after, we were forever in debt, till this very day.

Just watch untold history of the US and you will see what I mean. Actually Carter started all the shit though. Reagan just made it worse.

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The U.S. was running a surplus before Reagan, then after, we were forever in debt, till this very day.

I won't pretend to know everything about Reagan's period as President, but this is an interesting comment. First, with a Republican congress and Clinton as president we saw a "surplus" until the dot com bubble burst. I say "surplus" because they had to steal out of the social security fund to claim it as a surplus. Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

As for Reagan, he came into a bad economy with massive inflation from the Carter administration and turned it around by his second term. More importantly, and *no one* ever mentions this, Reagan brought the United States together instead of creating division. Yeah, some didn't like him, but his election results don't lie. We sorely lack any candidates that place importance on being Americans again instead of Democrat or Republican.

Some view Putin as a more respectable President, because he makes Russians proud to be Russian. I haven't been proud to be an American most of my adult life.

[Nuggie]

in before rnf.

this same old debate...

[Swish]

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