So, question about server behavior

[Rattle Squirrell]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that rule is in place to prevent players from stalling camps for an unnecessarily long time, and to prevent people from claiming multiple camps, among other things. if there weren't a time limit anybody could just run up to a camp, plant their ass on the ground, then say it's camped and to not touch anything for the 2 hours it takes their group to get there. just as easily you could get a few people hogging several camps that wouldn't be able to solo them by swapping people around.

before you complain about lawyerquesting rules maybe you should think about why the rules are there in the first place.

I can completely understand why the rules are in place. Perhaps my arguement is situational.....but I think sending someone you clearly see a tell that is in a camp would not be a far stretch for most players to do just to clarify what they are there for.

If they remain to sit, and do nothing. Sure......but to take while their medding up?

[Rattle Squirrell]

Originally Posted by lecompte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and if anyone wants to know what a toxic attitude is, this is it. The reason I don't do that is because it is editorializing. Decent people be decent people. Labeling someone an "asshole" is usually just a result of a misunderstanding. Context is pretty important in trying to figure out if someone was being willfully mean and the rules don't account for context much cause that isn't something Guides can be party to.

Nice players are rewarded for being kind with trust and respect. Assholes aren't welcome in groups and are spurned by players. These are the rewards here, as it was on live.

I do not generally come to these forums to call names, I apologize. Perhaps I did take what was being said out of context, I just despise the bullying I see on this game sometimes, and seeing someone clearly wronged (multiple times) is unacceptable when it takes 5 seconds to find out if something is camped, or to send a tell if you see a player there.

[Whirled]

He usually spawns close to (& then runs through) the IBL camp. He can appear at the main camp also. I have no proof but what I have witnessed by my own actions. A friendly ranger ran by when I was camping the goblin town... sure enough the ranger said he was by IBL camp & that Grachnist was on tracking. Ranger was an awesome girl (or guy - but it was a female character) and dragged it over to me as I ran from gob town. When I was killing @ IBL camp I did also kill 3 Grachnist's but the earring is not commonly dropped.

I think we all have a story or several about someone unpleasant coming along to ruin the fun.

[lecompte]

Ya, even harder is that you can't camp a mob without a static spawn.

[iruinedyourday]

Send a petition.. if a GM see's it and its way too late for them to even be effectual in your situation, you at least sent the names.. the GM's keep track of all that stuff. And if these people think that what they're doing is on the level, they're gonna do it again and again, sooner or later the GM will notice that they're seeing the same names come up again and again and tend to side with the petitioners in the future.

Tell them that you petitioned them too, and if they say smack back to you just ignore them.

Sucks to hear you got robbed of a nice night [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*edit -grammer.. also is effectual even a word? :P

[mr_jon3s]

Yea you have to stick up for yourself on this server or people will just walk all over you.

[applesauce25r624]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Send a petition.. if a GM see's it and its way too late for them to even be effectual in your situation, you at least sent the names.. the GM's keep track of all that stuff. And if these people think that what they're doing is on the level, they're gonna do it again and again, sooner or later the GM will notice that they're seeing the same names come up again and again and tend to side with the petitioners in the future.

definitely. narc these mother fuckers out!

PS... OP... name&shame, please

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Wycked Goodbrew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would the forum lurkers suggest to a young Shaman such as myself in this situation.

I started camping the East side of the goblin fort in Warslik's Woods for Grachnist at 9:30 pm last night.

First off, I agree with everyone here: while it sounds like those people were technically playing by the rules (because technically you couldn't hold the whole camp and Grachnist could spawn anywhere) they were definitely being jerks.

But that being said, here's the real problem: what are you doing hunting Grachnist in the first place? As a Shaman you really don't need gear yet (other than the random drops you pick up while XPing). At 45 you'll want to get yourself a JBB, and then you will want to earn plat, but by then you'll be able to do hill giants, town guards, farm rare drops in places like Drooga and LGuk, etc.

The point is, you'll be able to earn plat even better when you're 45, and until then you don't really need plat, so why make yourself miserable fighting over some annoying goblin? Just go XP, have fun, and by the time you need plat you'll be able to get it without having to put up with this nonsense.

Just my 2cp.

[loramin]

To those who are saying to petition (and this is an actual question, not a troll), what would he complain about exactly?

As I understand it, you can only hold 1 camp, ie. one placeholder/rare mob spawn. Grachnist can spawn at many points, so it's not one camp. You can't hold all the hill giants, or all the seafuries, or whatever to yourself either right?

And even if it is one camp, OP couldn't hold the whole camp, so the other people were entitled to at least part of it right?

What am I missing?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, I agree with everyone here: while it sounds like those people were technically playing by the rules (because technically you couldn't hold the whole camp and Grachnist could spawn anywhere) they were definitely being jerks.

But that being said, here's the real problem: what are you doing hunting Grachnist in the first place? As a Shaman you really don't need gear yet (other than the random drops you pick up while XPing). At 45 you'll want to get yourself a JBB, and then you will want to earn plat, but by then you'll be able to do hill giants, town guards, farm rare drops in places like Drooga and LGuk, etc.

The point is, you'll be able to earn plat even better when you're 45, and until then you don't really need plat, so why make yourself miserable fighting over some annoying goblin? Just go XP, have fun, and by the time you need plat you'll be able to get it without having to put up with this nonsense.

Just my 2cp.

Follow up question based on your 2cp. Why would a level 60 from a well established raid guild need to act like a jerk over the spawn then? If it should be considered a waste of time for a 35 shaman to try to make money off the spawn, then it shouldn't even be considered at all by a level 60 who raids regularly. Right?