Raid Rule Madness

[Eponymous Anonymous]

I think it would be pretty hilarious if Sirken and pals decided to come back and retroactively suspend every guild involved for being such whiners and dragging this out over multiple threads.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as far as I know TMO has not petitioned AG/IB/BDA for raid interfering with their attempt at a FFA dragon forcing them to give TAKEN guild a free shot at a dragon.

Keep creating new posts and maybe someone from TMO might create that petition and have the three guilds suspended.

We haven't and we won't.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"the reason most of those people were even on the aggro list to begin with was that taken actually broke another raid rule - they trained the dragon"

This also seems laregly irrelevant, as theya, as i understand it, never lost aggro; therefore, the dragon "wasn't trained." Part of the reason why this has probably been a confusing issue to deal with by GM's, are that the guilds themselves bringing the complaint don't have a clue either. Continual hammering of this point only causes confusion as to the real issues.

Dolic

you can call it a pull if you want, but the issue doesn't change. you're not allowed to set up your camp on top of someone else's raid. when you pull your target ontop of someone else's raid, you are effectively training them, independent of whether or not you are successful.

taken broke several rules on this pull.

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That clearly showed that the Taken guild FTE player was 11 sec ahead of the next FTE attempt to attack the dragon before TMO.

because everybody else was respecting the FTE message. lol.

[chief]

If an officer or leader of tmo pulled a dragon without fte and tmo killed it(esp with 160+ present in zone) I'm sure more then just would be destroyed as a punishment. GL/Officers should not be breaking any rules especially the golden FTE one.

[pewpewQQ]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=163090

[Zaela]

not a relevant person here but is there any reason this FTE thing isn't self enforcing?

say, after FTE anyone who isn't in the correct guild or grouped with someone in the correct guild or the pet of someone in the correct guild is barred from joining the hatelist and any attacks or spellcasts that would put them on the hatelist are blocked (proximity just wouldn't count). make it not reset until the dragon returns to their spawn/roaming point after a wipe.

* gm time saved
* no training
* shouldn't be too complex to understand or hard to code

automation > rule lawyering

[Ciroco]

That's not necessary, because we all know that you don't kill a mob you don't have FTE on.

Or at least I thought we did.

[Prismaticshop]

If TMO or IB had killed a mob they didnt have FTE on, either guild would get 2 weeks suspension.

GMs either give 2 fucks or there is clearly here a double standard.

[Orruar]

Every guild there except A-Team had illegal agro on that dragon. I propose a 2 week suspension for all guilds who were present except A-Team.

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every guild there except A-Team had illegal agro on that dragon. I propose a 2 week suspension for all guilds who were present except A-Team.

Wrong. There's no such thing as illegal aggro.