ok nerds gimme a monitor/tv recommendation

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Littlegyno 11.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what tv you want? PM me amazon link and your address and it will be there in 2 days.

cool thanks gyno

[Grimjaw]

also ya sharp aquas p good I hear

[Kergan]

Samsung a good bet for that, so is Sony. LGs are hit and miss but mostly hit from what I've seen. Vizio's are surprisingly good for their price point too.

You have to pay attention to what exactly is getting stripped out feature wise...sometimes you can drop a tier from a manufacturer and only lose stupid shit like 3D, internet apps, some inputs you don't need etc. In general (even though you mentioned refresh rate isn't a big deal) the more inputs you have the higher your input lag is going to be. Most gaming monitors for example only have a single input.

I'm actually looking at putting a new TV in my basement and I want a big one. It's really only going to get used to watch football so I don't want to drop a ton, mostly because in 5 years all the OLED shit will be out and make half the crap nowadays borderline obsolete (like when plasmas/LCDs replaced CRT TVs). Best Buy has a 65" Sharp entry level TV for $950 which is dirt cheap for a 65". I was actually pretty happy with the picture quality, because most of the shit the got skimmed was dumb things like 3D or 240Hz refresh (overkill, waste of money).

It's really hard to recommend a specific model though, everyone has different needs and reacts to color temperature settings differently. When we used to get TVs in direct from China everything looked really red tinted to us, but to the Chinese that was normal. The best way to shop for a TV is identify your minimum requirements and look for a model from each major manufacturer that meets them (Samsung, Sony, LG, Sharp, Vizio...I'd forget about the rest). See if you can actually view one in person at a retail place and buy the one that looks best to you. You should look up recommended settings on the avsforum.net forums and make the adjustment, TV manufacturers tend to crank up the brightness and contrast way past where it needs to be in order to look "crisp" when displayed next to several other televisions and under bright white lights in a retail environment. I've seen many TVs look like absolute dogshit on the showroom floor, but with proper calibration blow other TVs at their price point out of the water.

[karsten]

I think i'm leaning towards a monitor with a high refresh rate that i can also turn sideways and watch football on from my couch. I'd want integrated speakers because why not. Do most monitors (kergan you had been talking about a 27" which is I think the ideal size) also have a cable-in port?

so, it'd be HDMI from docking station to monitor, and then cable connection that i could switch back and forth from

I do want it to be big but I'm in full understanding that i'll have to be way far away from large TVs to have them be useful in any way.

So, the last question would be, would a 27 incher be big enough to have on one end of the wall so that I can sit on my couch and eat cheetos while watching it, say some great sexy anime with subtitles? Are there larger gaming monitors and if so, do they start going up drastically in price once you go past 27?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think i'm leaning towards a monitor with a high refresh rate that i can also turn sideways and watch football on from my couch. I'd want integrated speakers because why not. Do most monitors (kergan you had been talking about a 27" which is I think the ideal size) also have a cable-in port?

so, it'd be HDMI from docking station to monitor, and then cable connection that i could switch back and forth from

I do want it to be big but I'm in full understanding that i'll have to be way far away from large TVs to have them be useful in any way.

So, the last question would be, would a 27 incher be big enough to have on one end of the wall so that I can sit on my couch and eat cheetos while watching it, say some great sexy anime with subtitles? Are there larger gaming monitors and if so, do they start going up drastically in price once you go past 27?

Monitors never have a cable-in port. That implies a tuner, which is what turns a monitor into a television!

Lots of easy ways around that though, easiest being HDMI direct from a cable box. A little more complex would be an external USB based tuner for your PC that you could probably get in the $50-100 range.

Monitors pretty much stop at 27", after that they are almost all TVs. As for the distance, depends on how far it is from your couch to the wall...if its over 9 feet I'd probably get something bigger.

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monitors never have a cable-in port. That implies a tuner, which is what turns a monitor into a television!

Lots of easy ways around that though, easiest being HDMI direct from a cable box. A little more complex would be an external USB based tuner for your PC that you could probably get in the $50-100 range.

Monitors pretty much stop at 27", after that they are almost all TVs. As for the distance, depends on how far it is from your couch to the wall...if its over 9 feet I'd probably get something bigger.

ahh ok, but if I have a cable box that has an HDMI out, then i'm good to go on that

what is going to be my main difference between, for example:

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GW2750HM-...ywords=benq+27

and

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2720Z-2...ywords=benq+27

in terms of performance and what my eye can actually recognize?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ahh ok, but if I have a cable box that has an HDMI out, then i'm good to go on that

what is going to be my main difference between, for example:

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-GW2750HM-...ywords=benq+27

and

http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2720Z-2...ywords=benq+27

in terms of performance and what my eye can actually recognize?

The only real difference is the panel. A panel is like 90% of the performance of the monitor/TV though.

More generically one is using a TN panel and one is using a VA panel. It's odd that they are advertising a VA panel monitor as a "gaming" monitor though, in most regards that is the one thing VA panels are shitty at. TN panels are faster response, but worse contrast radio and color reproduction. So the VA panel (more expensive one) will look nicer but you'll have ghosting/blur issues with fast motion especially while gaming.

You have to be careful with response time measurements. They are like wattage ratings on a stereo - complete bullshit marketing numbers. They usually measure transition from gray to white to gray which isn't real world meaningful, and if you were to measure to the exact same monitor black to white to black it would be much higher, which is usually the kind of actual performance you'll see especially in gaming.

Without seeing them its hard to tell, but it is unlikely I'd pay double the price for a VA panel, especially when both are at the 1920x1080 resolution point. I'm a big fan of S-IPS panels, even for gaming now that they've crept down in both price and response time.

If you want something really nice check out:
http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors

They are an American company based out of California that is importing the Korean panels used in most 27" IPS monitors and assembling them in the US. That means you can have an American company to deal with rather than rolling the dice buying a Catleap/Auria etc. Unfortunately they are on constant backorder because the demand is so high, they build these things specifically for gaming but they carry an awesome S-IPS panel. I've had my eye on their company for about 2-3 years now and I've been impressed so far. Can't beat $369 for a brand new 27" SIPS 2560x1440 monitor!

The caveat with 2560x1440 monitor is that its DVI only. This is the same for any manufacturer, at least for now. The reason being an HDMI cable at current spec can't handle the bandwidth required to power such an awesome picture. They do make a multiple input version, so if you had a cable box it would be able to take the signal...but only on a DVI input would you be able to handle the full 2560x1440 resolution. Doesn't matter for cable though, since that shit comes in at 1920x1080 max anyway, at least until we get some true 4K content!

So for about 10% more than that BenQ VA 1920x1080 monitor you could have a 2560x1440 S-IPS panel built for gaming with inputs for your TV as well.

[Haynar]

I got one of these monitors.

http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/9113705

It has built in speakers and 3.5 mm jack. I should hook up my roku or rpi to hdmi to see if audio works there too.

Makes for an ok monitor. Got for $139.

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[Eslade]

Everyone loves Samsung in this thread.

[karsten]

that's a good point

first and only samsung appreciation thread