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Old 06-02-2014, 03:50 PM
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Green pet pulling lasted into at least PoP, and I think into OoW...
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:51 AM
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Green pet pulling was not a thing while pets alone could proximity aggro NPCs. The rationale for this should be very obvious.

In addition, use of green pet pulling required feign death.

For those not savvy on the trick.

1) You FD'd with a lower level pet.
2) You /pet attacked.
3) You either spammed /pet back or /pet hold (pet discipline) then /pet back

NPCs will not assist the aggroed NPC provided both
A) the pet is a low enough level
B) the pet does not attacks the NPC.

Pet discipline allowed you to stand up immediately after the pet aggroed because it ensured the pet would not attack back. Players without this AA would have to remain FDd and spam /pet back.

The NPC only gets assistance on the pet's attacks. If the player is FDed while the pet attacks and the pet is low enough level, the NPC will not get social assistance.

In combination with bestow divine aura, this allowed for pulling single NPCs virtually anywhere without adds. It also gave a lot of PvE value to a blood orchid katana for SKs.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:43 AM
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Green pet pulling was not a thing while pets alone could proximity aggro NPCs. The rationale for this should be very obvious.

In addition, use of green pet pulling required feign death.

For those not savvy on the trick.

1) You FD'd with a lower level pet.
2) You /pet attacked.
3) You either spammed /pet back or /pet hold (pet discipline) then /pet back

NPCs will not assist the aggroed NPC provided both
A) the pet is a low enough level
B) the pet does not attacks the NPC.

Pet discipline allowed you to stand up immediately after the pet aggroed because it ensured the pet would not attack back. Players without this AA would have to remain FDd and spam /pet back.

The NPC only gets assistance on the pet's attacks. If the player is FDed while the pet attacks and the pet is low enough level, the NPC will not get social assistance.

In combination with bestow divine aura, this allowed for pulling single NPCs virtually anywhere without adds. It also gave a lot of PvE value to a blood orchid katana for SKs.

You did not have to have feign death, read the links provided. They discuss shaman doing this and although some suggest fd many do without, including myself. The big trick was positioning pet on guard a distance back then standing back as far as you can tot ell pet to attack and have him do it. Then after pet attack you run backwards this should put you out or range of agro and pull successfully, The mechanic is discussed in detail about NPC to NPC interaction and the GREEN assist mechanic not working properly with pets, whether intentional or not it is classic.

*** pet pull back was not mentioned previously but yes the proximity would agro mob and that would cause pet to not call for help when assisting on green pet, idea was so fippy wouldn't be ganked by 50 mobs but just 1. I didn't mention it because its a requisite to the pull, ie that's the point, gotta call pet back and he has to live so you don't get agro from adds
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:29 PM
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Green pet pulling was not a thing while pets alone could proximity aggro NPCs. The rationale for this should be very obvious.
Good point, although I guess it could in theory be used for non-KoS mobs?
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:24 AM
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Ive noticed we dont have flying mounts
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:35 AM
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Personally, I have a memory during classic (Pre-Kunark) of being taught to make macros such as /pet attack, /pet back off, and /pet guard from a necromancer killing the bard in the WFP Inn.

Either way, shouldn't this be posted in the bug forum for the devs to consider?
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:32 PM
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Either way, shouldn't this be posted in the bug forum for the devs to consider?
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Yeah I put it in here to get some feedback prior to posting in bugs. See what people thought or whether the had other evidence which showed it to be incorrect.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:47 AM
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Duck casting can go right now, no need for a bug post

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Old 06-03-2014, 11:54 AM
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Duck casting can go right now, no need for a bug post

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Can't wait for them to fix the broken serverwide OOC and EXTREMELY broken group EXP calculations on red. They make the server almost unplayable right now due to how unclassic it is. Ruining my immersion so hard :/.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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there is zero way it was introduced in luclin as I never played luclin.
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