Elderan laughed off the p99 forums?

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't hate Elderan.

A few things stand out.

- He joined server and immediately went to Nihilum who was already winning and began this air of superiority shit.... that's going to draw flames.

- I'm aware the pvp leader board went down from time to time, I don't get on this shit for that although other people did. However when he began editing out kills because guildies told him "they were link dead" or took out all of Colgate's kills or left him as the only kill up there... I and others started to have a problem. Especially when he constantly pointed to it as a "look how great we are". Mind you, it was filled with Tune griefing people with barely any resist gear at all with unresistable bard bullshit (unique to this server).

- The real tipping point is when he started harassing Nilbog about how he should be fired like in the real world for his lack of releasing Velious. I've seen countless times where most people would have just said fuck this, fuck you guys, see ya later but he keeps on making the shit classic and reading our complaints and implementing classic content. In fact, I'd be curious to know how many times Nilbog was ready to quit and why.

I actually felt a little bad about how much shit people (me included) gave Elderan because I have a conscience. However, I know it isn't going to stop with him so I'm not exactly torn up about it lol.

When elderan joined nihilum there was literally no other guild on the server. You can't hate on people for joining the only guild that slays dragons. There was a good eight month period of zero pvp over targets. I understand your position of not acting the bad ass, but I can't hate on people for joining what was the only viable guild at the time.

[Kergan]

It doesn't matter what you did and didn't do, they'll continue posting their theories as facts and a certain percentage of people will choose to believe them.

[Gaanon]

You told us that you were hiding Azrael kills because of excessive OOC shit talk, but was really because we just wiped your druushk kill with some wurms and shit.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You told us that you were hiding Azrael kills because of excessive OOC shit talk, but was really because we just wiped your druushk kill with some wurms and shit.

That is what I said at the time because you were annoying me, and it got some good laughs. But it was just a bug on the sp I was working on. I was trying to limit the amount of data the sp had to pull in to calculate some of the totals and some guilds and people not in the top select were being cut out by accident. Was a pretty simple mistake but the reaction was Azrael was within 1 min of me executing the new, buggy sp.

[Nirgon]

I'm sure he's not that bad a guy if you're on his side.

I just hope he can objectively take a look at what is getting so much shit directed his way.

In fact? If he'd just leave the board up and not touch anything on it, I'd probably be using him as an example of people who contribute around here rather than just demanding more free shit like Rogean making the leader board (I did start out this way in his thread praising him for doing it, that changed).

Every single time I checked (could just be coincidence) Azrael won a pvp fight, it was taken down or all the Azrael kills were removed. AS AN OUTSIDER (you love that I don't openly fly any guild colors here and there's people I greatly dislike on both sides) its pretty obvious to me while Elderan is getting so much shit. I think there's room for him to redeem himself if he feels like it.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every single time I checked (could just be coincidence) Azrael won a pvp fight, it was taken down or all the Azrael kills were removed. AS AN OUTSIDER (you love that I don't openly fly any guild colors here and there's people I greatly dislike on both sides) its pretty obvious to me while Elderan is getting so much shit. I think there's room for him to redeem himself if he feels like it.

Got to understand. Azrael started winning when Nizzar took a break. I took a break when Nizzar did. The boards were still running but I did not pay as much attention to them at that time. The gaps in the logs got larger due to not paying as much attention because I was not playing.

Anyone could have sent me the logs and I would have imported them. But no one ever did, even when I asked. So I stopped asking.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure he's not that bad a guy if you're on his side.

I just hope he can objectively take a look at what is getting so much shit directed his way.

In fact? If he'd just leave the board up and not touch anything on it, I'd probably be using him as an example of people who contribute around here rather than just demanding more free shit like Rogean making the leader board (I did start out this way in his thread praising him for doing it, that changed).

Every single time I checked (could just be coincidence) Azrael won a pvp fight, it was taken down or all the Azrael kills were removed. AS AN OUTSIDER (you love that I don't openly fly any guild colors here and there's people I greatly dislike on both sides) its pretty obvious to me while Elderan is getting so much shit. I think there's room for him to redeem himself if he feels like it.

He isn't a bad guy at all, in scene or behind it. I told him multiple times to change the board to record nothing but Nihilum kills/deaths as a service to our guild because of the outrageous amount of bullshit he had to put up with. Dude would have text alerts going off at 3 AM because a data collection character disconnected and he'd wake up and take care of it.

In well over a half of a year being in TS with the guy and getting to know him not once did he talk about modifying PVP kills. HE DID NOT DO IT. You won't believe me. I don't care. Dude spent his own time and money putting up a service for the server and took nothing but shit for it.

You don't like it? Don't look at it. Or make your own. Sad part is Elderan had some big plans for the thing that would have made the server pretty cool. At one point he was talking to Nizzarr about putting up Nihilum guild bank loot up as prizes for weekly/monthly/season type "pvp champs". None of that stuff will ever happen because a few idiots decide heap shit on the guy. Too bad, its a loss for all of us.

Savin' you time:
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[Rettj]

Is this thrad about stasis quitting to play blue?

[Nirgon]

Well let me redefine winning.

It was something like you guys got trained in VP and they were bind camping you.

Then there was another time after a botb or something. I just know the front page was ripe with Azrael excitement and you changed all kinds of shit. You can't do that and not expect a credibility hit.

Just take a second and re-evaluate your forumquest and why people are all over your shit.

[Fame]

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