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Old 08-23-2010, 12:02 PM
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+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.
^^^ This ^^^


Hipponipple makes a good point however, if you re read the OP's first post, he wants a place to "get beat up and corpse camped".

I've been through my fair share of PvP (Started with UO). PvP is fun but the percentage of people who want to grief others FAR outnumbers people who have legitimate skill and or enjoy PvP'ing games.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:04 PM
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+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.
I'm sorry to hear you have zero skill and sit in one spot killinng green spawn alday long.Do you think everyone feels the same way you do??Get the heck out of your Basement bro and see the sunshine.This is only a idea we are throwing around to make this game alittle funnier for the skilled players.We are only asking for a area not the intire server to be pvp.This way we dont upset YOU while your camping green bosses, Thinking Gold will buy you the end game items.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:11 PM
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This is only a idea we are throwing around to make this game alittle funnier for the skilled players.We are only asking for a area not the intire server to be pvp.
Sorry not classic...

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Old 08-23-2010, 12:12 PM
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Sorry not classic...

SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:12 PM
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+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.
Where is there a pvp server, you mean that crappy run one with 30 people on it at a time? As for making my own I'm not a programmer... I just play games and I don't have the resources to make a p1999. That means I don't get what I want but still what a stupid suggestion, for me to make my own server by myself. If there was only a PvP server I'm sure you would be working on your own PvE server buddy.


Explaining PvP for people who dont understand it and resist it:

It has nothing to do with "victimizing." PvP is an aspect of the game that should be in every roleplaying game from the start. Many argue Everquest is great because of the freedom. You can attack any npc you want or go jump in some lava, unlike many other mmorpgs. Why can't you attack the real player next to you if they are screwing you over somehow? Yes maybe some will use it to grief others but PvP is real, you pay for your actions and reputation on a PvP server. Having true enemies and allies in a rpg is a huge plus for me (but obviously not everything since I still enjoy this server more than other games out there right now). Especially when that enemy is a certain guild or player instead of the game just starting me out on a different side. Everquest PvP allows you to develop your own enemies unlike other games PvP like WoW. The only enemies you have in PvE Everquest is the guild sitting next to you going for a spawn, which is very weak and there is never any satisfying revenge or victory in that type of rivalry. It only results in spending hours and hours camping and bitching/complaining.

The reason it is good isn't just so you can victimize people as you say. The whole ideal behind Everquest being harsh and real compared to other games is an argument for PvP, but unfortunately that is crossing the line for realness and harshness for most players.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:22 PM
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Where is there a pvp server, you mean that crappy run one with 30 people on it at a time? As for making my own I'm not a programmer... I just play games and I don't have the resources to make a p1999. That means I don't get what I want but still what a stupid suggestion, for me to make my own server by myself. If there was only a PvP server I'm sure you would be working on your own PvE server buddy.


Explaining PvP for people who dont understand it and resist it:

It has nothing to do with "victimizing." PvP is an aspect of the game that should be in every roleplaying game from the start. Many argue Everquest is great because of the freedom. You can attack any npc you want or go jump in some lava, unlike many other mmorpgs. Why can't you attack the real player next to you if they are screwing you over somehow? Yes maybe some will use it to grief others but PvP is real, you pay for your actions and reputation on a PvP server. Having true enemies and allies in a rpg is a huge plus for me (but obviously not everything since I still enjoy this server more than other games out there right now). Especially when that enemy is a certain guild or player instead of the game just starting me out on a different side. Everquest PvP allows you to develop your own enemies unlike other games PvP like WoW. The only enemies you have in PvE Everquest is the guild sitting next to you going for a spawn, which is very weak and there is never any satisfying revenge or victory in that type of rivalry. It only results in spending hours and hours camping and bitching/complaining.

The reason it is good isn't just so you can victimize people as you say. The whole ideal behind Everquest being harsh and real compared to other games is an argument for PvP, but unfortunately that is crossing the line for realness and harshness for most players.
I like the idea of PvP in the sense that I have some sort of control over what goes down with the player environment. To me, and a lot of other people... see griefing being a huge problem. Sure, every PvP game will have it but as far a reputation goes: it's hard to do something about that "asshole" who camped your corpse when he has a legion of other assholes.

Also: UncleDread... if you can't put forth an argument like Hippo has here ^^

THAN SHUT YOUR FUCKING CUNT MOUTH
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:24 PM
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I like the idea of PvP in the sense that I have some sort of control over what goes down with the player environment. To me, and a lot of other people... see griefing being a huge problem. Sure, every PvP game will have it but as far a reputation goes: it's hard to do something about that "asshole" who camped your corpse when he has a legion of other assholes.

Also: UncleDread... if you can't put forth an argument like Hippo has here ^^

THAN SHUT YOUR FUCKING CUNT MOUTH
QQ more? sad noob
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:25 PM
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:46 PM
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I like the idea of PvP in the sense that I have some sort of control over what goes down with the player environment. To me, and a lot of other people... see griefing being a huge problem. Sure, every PvP game will have it but as far a reputation goes: it's hard to do something about that "asshole" who camped your corpse when he has a legion of other assholes.

Also: UncleDread... if you can't put forth an argument like Hippo has here ^^

THAN SHUT YOUR FUCKING CUNT MOUTH
The legion of assholes most likely turn on each other and are never organized. Also they very rarely even make it to top level because people find out who they are and kos them forcing them to remake and act differently next time. The top guilds on PvP servers are always anti pk and are respectful to others like them. I would imagine this community would be very respectful for the most part as far as corpse camping. Plus why corpse camp? You could get screenshots or whatever documentation you want and get the person banned for it. Corpse camping does nothing for the pker since all you could loot would be coin. If someone actually was griefing that way at least you could get them banned. Right now people have to worry about people making new accounts and training npcs on people. Banning them does nothing to those griefers and those people are not only doing corpse runs but losing exp. In PvP you don't lose any exp.

"Griefers" is just an excuse, not a real reason to not have pvp. It's another aspect of the game that we are missing out on. Trust me on a PvP server the people who enjoy being dominant in PvE will still be dominant, and there would even be a larger margin between how much better geared the honorable people are compared to the assholes. Once you are named an asshole on a PvP server you just become KoS to everyone and if a guild keeps them in the guild they risk their own reputation way more than they do in PvE. That entire guild may become KoS to other guilds. That PvP environment forces guilds to be honorable that want to do PvE content.

If one of the current top guilds were always assholes the rest of the community could overtake them and eventually make them pay for it on a PvP server. Plus the random griefers will always be hunted by the tons of people with nothing to do. The PvE people drool over a reason to use their top end gear on someone that is known as a PKer. Meaning the people getting picked on will have their opportunity to get revenge through people at the EC tunnel. How long do you think it would take people to hear there was a pk in EC tunnel, port there with 2 or 3 guys and take care of it? There would probably end up being 10-20 people going after them with all the people sitting at EC tunnel with nothing to do.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:50 PM
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Where is there a pvp server, you mean that crappy run one with 30 people on it at a time?
So, what? You've already ruined your own pool, now you want to piss in ours, too?

There's probably a reason that server is a piece of crap. We'd like to keep that crap out of P99, thank you very much.
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