Shamen Vs. Druids as Soloers

[azxten]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

druids are no where near the best PLers. They are only the best at like level 1-15, which isn't a high money PL level anyway.

They are the best from 1-30 or so which is all most people want PLing for anyway. Sure, you might find the occasional person paying a bunch of money for high level PLing but the majority of the market is in getting people from 1-10, etc. People with tons of money to spend on high level PLing usually have friends, other accounts, etc to use instead.

[Noleafclover]

Originally Posted by Gorroth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nalkin, their damage shield stay relevant way into the high 20s, possibly higher. Once past a certain level, they usually supplement their damage shield with shaman DS potion.

Their regen, heals and HP/AC buffs are good at any levels.

Are they the best? Maybe not, but they're definitely the ones I see raking the most cash.

I only PL if I'm offered something obscene, like 1.5 an hour and in the mood (it's kinda prostitution) and I still think that's a better deal than dru pl from 15-40, where I excel. Would take several hours of dru pl to equal 1 hour of monk pl during those levels.

Monks get no respect, we PL better than drus and dps better than rogues (in classic, for the most part), but drus are "the plers" and rogues are "the dpsers."

As for dru vs. shaman - what are you trying to do? level fast? Then shaman.

Make money? spose end-game in classic, quadding seafuries is more money as a dru than a shammy makes. But I don't really know what end-game shammies do for money.

If you don't want to just solo, shammy is more valuable to a group by leaps and bounds in my book. Dru does what a lot of other classes do at weaker amounts, so they're good solo or for small groups because they're more varied - shammy brings buffs and higher mana regen to the pool, over drus.

[azxten]

Still confused why everyone thinks a Shaman levels faster than a Druid.

[quido]

Taluvill, your opinion is based in bias and not fact. Yes harmony is nice but it is outdoor only and shamans can CC with root. How much shit are you really trying to split outdoors and not quadkite at 50? Druids solo best quadkiting and even that results in a ridiculous amount of meditation time. I bet you that even minus my hammer I could kill at least 150% of the mobs that you could. Take away your manastone and I bet it's easily 200%. Druids are really kind of shit at generating damage, especially against a single target where it is extremely inefficient with regards to mana.

So to say that a druid soloing is uncontested is completely retarded. Shamans are better soloers, but so is every single int caster. Let's see a druid break a camp in lguk. I bet breaking Ass/Sup would run you out of mana.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so is every single int caster

So Wizards solo faster than Druids.. interesting since they both do the same exact thing.

[quido]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Wizards solo faster than Druids.. interesting since they both do the same exact thing.

whoops forgot about them, lol, I mean necro/mage/enc

And you know it's true!

[azxten]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whoops forgot about them, lol, I mean necro/mage/enc

And you know it's true!

Necro has always been undisputed champion of soloing for exp, Mage is completely OP right now and everyone knows it, and I doubt Enc is faster than Druid. I watch Encs come to specs and it takes them just as long to charm fight down the 4 mobs as it does for me to quad and med. Shaman I just know sucks balls exp wise compared to quadding cause I've played a Shaman.

Also, it's a lot different having to continuously play to get your exp (Shaman) compared to quadding where you fight for 2-3 mins and go AFK for 5-10. Gives you a lot of room to do other stuff than playing EQ while you grind which is great.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taluvill, your opinion is based in bias and not fact. Yes harmony is nice but it is outdoor only and shamans can CC with root. How much shit are you really trying to split outdoors and not quadkite at 50? Druids solo best quadkiting and even that results in a ridiculous amount of meditation time. I bet you that even minus my hammer I could kill at least 150% of the mobs that you could. Take away your manastone and I bet it's easily 200%. Druids are really kind of shit at generating damage, especially against a single target where it is extremely inefficient with regards to mana.

So to say that a druid soloing is uncontested is completely retarded. Shamans are better soloers, but so is every single int caster. Let's see a druid break a camp in lguk. I bet breaking Ass/Sup would run you out of mana.

Agreed. I do sometimes forget that I have my manastone = P

Take that away and, agreed, most of my soloing is crap. To say that SO many are better than a druid at soloing is retarded though. When we quad, we can make better exp than anyone(wizards rival us with their quads). Solo killing though? We're probably less efficient than a shaman, but and I'd bet i'd use about the same amount of mana as you. I'd like to test that one day, pet and no pet, would be interesting.

So yes, You win in that respect. Completely forgot about the manastone. I could break ass sup, and it prolly wouldnt run me out of mana, but damn close, manastone or not (I probably wouldnt even use it). I could probably solo arch magi, possibly break it. All of that just not as efficient as a shaman, and probably with more difficulty.

The harmony deal? Hit kunark and watch how much shit I can break = ). As of now, there really isn't much its needed for other than farming stupid places like Mistmoore or stupid shit.

[quido]

I guess what I'm talking about is more the situation once you reach level 50. I'm not sure, but I think that's what the OP is wondering about more here. Druids do level up faster, but come 50, that doesn't count for anything really. I'd say Shamans and Druids are on nearly equal footing in outdoors zones, but druids are fucking worthless indoors. And who spends a lot of their time killing shit outdoors at 50? Almost all the cool/challenging/lucrative mobs/camps are indoors. I can't speak for Kunark because I've never played it but I suspect that this is the case there as well.

[quido]

You really think a druid quadkiting at like level 40 generates better exp than a properly-geared enchanter banging a dungeon? I don't think so.