Pantheon

[Danth]

I haven't followed development closely so if there was never any plan of competing at the AAA-grade level, that would make more sense.

Danth

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surely this is a joke? Does someone seriously expect to make a AAA-quality MMORPG, today, for that price? EQ cost more than that in the mid-late 90's and launched in a condition that'd be guaranteed failure today.

Danth

Developing EQ today would take considerably less time and therefore programmer budget today. It's really not a valid comparison

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surely this is a joke? Does someone seriously expect Brad McQuaid to make a AAA-quality MMORPG, today? 200 pounds of cocaine cost more than it did in the mid-late 90's and his mental health is in a condition that'd be guaranteed failure no matter what.

Danth

I fixed it to be more accurate.

[thefloydian]

http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/...014%202014.mp3

The whole thing is pretty interesting, but the part where one of the devs questions where the money went and explains that he wasn't' paid shit is around 1:14:00

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/...014%202014.mp3

Cool, thanks for the link.

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool, thanks for the link.

What a moron.

[Swish]

Bring Brad onto the P99 staff, make him develop us a legit PvP teams server. It would be good for his resume at this point.

[fastboy21]

I didn't read it the way most of you did:

I took it to mean that they have taken it as far as they can without a major investor. Nothing more or less.

Personally, I always thought the odds of them leveraging a kickstarter into enough funds, either by direct fund raising or gaining the attention of an investor, for a well-produced MMO was a long shot from the beginning. Any chance this had of success was really hinging on Brad being an industry insider that knows the players and would attract the right attention. This part worked...now he needs money. Anyone know someone with 12 million dollars to risk on an MMO start-up company led by someone that hasn't produced a successful MMO in 15 years? (and yes, I LOVED Vanguard...the few dozen of us who did will watch that game go dark soon too.) Like I said, it was a long shot from the beginning. At worst, it was a long shot designed to hold over a handful of otherwise unemployed and talented Devs between solid employments.

It is interesting that so many folks are suddenly back on the hate Brad bandwagon.

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is interesting that so many folks are suddenly back on the hate Brad bandwagon.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, although I would never give him money. If you read the different forums and have listened to the interviews over the last week it sounds pretty suspect. The developer named Toney doesn't sound very sold on Brad either, and he knows him way better than any of us. At best it looks like this was horribly mismanaged, and at worst it looks like Brad is fleecing these people.

[Rec]

There's no meltdown, he said himself he needs 10-12 million to make the game and they are waiting for an investor. Who thought 150k was going to fund the game?

All this is, is that there are people who wake up every day hoping for a meltdown.