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Old 03-24-2014, 03:01 PM
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this is "their" server they can do w/e the fuck the want and if they dont want people ruining "their" server then they will ban the fuck out of you without thinking twice. This isnt a court of law there is no rights here fuck tard. The gm's or whoever pays for this shit out of his own pocket or donations and they all put "their" time in to make this server possible. If you dont like "their" fucking rules then dont play here qq gg stfu
Simple copyright laws would beg to differ. Simply saying this isn't their game. Its a server that exactly matches something already made. I'm only saying they can't play the card that they put so much hard work into it. They just copied what was done already, I realize re-coding to match its previous form wasn't easy, but it also isn't their game. I don't hate this server by any means, its brilliant. I'm just saying you can't simply say something is alright then when they change their minds, ban people who did it.
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:01 PM
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At worst, Sony has a civil claim against P99 for infringement which they have, thus far, chosen not to pursue. In fact, there's more than a few murmurs that Sony and P99 have an "understanding", part of which is the active policing of RMT. You're absolutely right that P99 does not own the game, and that they cannot modify, control, and distribute copyrighted files without potential penalty. However, they do own the server which your connecting to, and it is more than appropriate for them to cut off access for people they deem unfit.

The moral and ethical justifications for disallowing RMT are largely irrelevant. It's against the rules, and if you want to play here, then don't do it here.

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Is this server legal?
Yes it is legal, because A) We do not distribute copyrighted files, B) We do not charge people to play, therefor we are not making any sort of money or profit off of the intellectual property of SOE, and C) SOE Grants, in their user agreement, a license to utilize Everquest names and art, to all accounts in good standing:

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"SOE hereby grants to each EverQuest account subscriber that is in good standing and with the grant automatically revoked as of the moment that the subscriber�s account is no longer in good standing (an "EQ Subscriber"), a limited, personal, nonexclusive, nontransferable, nonassignable and fully revocable license to use (a) the EverQuest name, and (b) trademarks and copyrighted material from EverQuest including NPC names and images, diety and monster names and images, geographical names, item names and images, character names and images, background art, and screenshots containing any of the foregoing�"
Some say that it is not legal due to the following clause in the user agreement:
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9. You may not use any third party software to modify the Software to change Game play. You may not create, facilitate, host, link to or provide any other means through which the Game may be played by others, such as through server emulators. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.
However, statements like these in a user agreement do not constitute legality, they merely serve as a guideline that if broken can terminate your usage of their services.
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:01 PM
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The only time the server is going to give you items for cash is if they can suck Brad McQuaids dick in the process.

Lets get another kickstarter going guys!
Found this on another thread (8th Post by Champion_Standing) http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=144310

That is in fact RMT sugar coated in a "donation" to an entirely different game. Just doesn't add up.
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this is "their" server they can do w/e the fuck the want and if they dont want people ruining "their" server then they will ban the fuck out of you without thinking twice. This isnt a court of law there is no rights here fuck tard. The gm's or whoever pays for this shit out of his own pocket or donations and they all put "their" time in to make this server possible. If you dont like "their" fucking rules then dont play here qq gg stfu
Simple copyright laws would beg to differ. Simply saying this isn't their game. Its a server that exactly matches something already made. I'm only saying they can't play the card that they put so much hard work into it. They just copied what was done already, I realize re-coding to match its previous form wasn't easy, but it also isn't their game. I don't hate this server by any means, its brilliant. I'm just saying you can't simply say something is alright then when they change their minds, ban people who did it.
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:03 PM
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plz show me where it says before in your first post jfc your a idiot
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:05 PM
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im not going 2 argue with you anymore clearly your a fucking retard and dont understand that it is their shit because they fucking just banned 400ppl and no one is going to stop them so yea that what i would call "theirs" go file a lawsuit or stfu
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At worst, Sony has a civil claim against P99 for infringement which they have, thus far, chosen not to pursue. In fact, there's more than a few murmurs that Sony and P99 have an "understanding", part of which is the active policing of RMT. You're absolutely right that P99 does not own the game, and that they cannot modify, control, and distribute copyrighted files without potential penalty. However, they do own the server which your connecting to, and it is more than appropriate for them to cut off access for people they deem unfit.

The moral and ethical justifications for disallowing RMT are largely irrelevant. It's against the rules, and if you want to play here, then don't do it here.

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That is all bogus propaganda, It is copyright infringement. They have made it EXACTLY how it used to be, which was copyrighted... Think for yourselves people come on.
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Are you serious dude? Look at the quote in your post. Also its You're** an** idiot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
is that your op? no its a quote down the line jfc your a idiot
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Old 03-24-2014, 03:08 PM
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First this thread has butthurt written all over it... second, Xasten just shot down your argument in flames. The end.
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