World War: Norrath

[Rjones61]

Originally Posted by Sarkhan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still think my money would be on the Erudites if they could ally their good + evil together, otherwise they might just wipe each other out.

Iksars might last a good long time though because of where they are. Unfortunately the iksars don't have their navy anymore or their ability for aerial combat and would be on the defensive to survive. In time even the iksars would fall due to their current miserable state.

My money was on the Erudites too. However, I think we should think of humans as a serious contender. If you think of guild masters as the most powerful among races, humans have almost every class of guild master. They have three cities, defeating the gnolls and orcs of highpass would be a simple task if they put their minds to it. Their sheer numbers and versatility would be very difficult to deal with.

The MASSIVE flaw for humans is that their sewer systems in Qeynos and Freeport are an easy infiltration system.

[Swish]

Freeport is srs business... if Neriak/Rivervale/Grobb/Oggok don't take them out, Freeport humans would take them out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (perhaps with a lil help from Highkeep)

[Rjones61]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Freeport is srs business... if Neriak/Rivervale/Grobb/Oggok don't take them out, Freeport humans would take them out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (perhaps with a lil help from Highkeep)

I would rule out Grobb and Oggok. In all out warfare, they would use no strategy, meet in an open battlefield and fight each other to the last.

[JPMorgan]

I really don't see how Kelethin would have the forces necessary to wipe out Felwith. Felwith's troop selection is much more viable as far as classes go. They would have them beat in everything from sustainability to fire power.

I think with that mentality you could also disregard Trolls, Ogres, Iksars and Barbarians. They might be physically robust, but they lack logistical staying power in terms of troop support and mobility.

[Brut]

We were taking influence as part of this, and generally trolls/ogres are in alliance with Dark Elves ("out of fear" says the guidebooks and whatnot methinks). Crushbone Orcs are holding the elves back and they're also in cahoots with Dark Elves.

For what it's worth, those 4 races were teaming up during the retake Grobb war events that happened on live. Rest of the races didn't really team up as much, but they didn't really have the incentive to do so since who cares if some amphebians hold Grobb or not. Still point is, methinks Dark Elves would use the fatties and orcs as their frontline then turn on them once the goodies are dealt with. And following Innoruuk's guidance they'd probably follow that up with starting to kill one another.

[Rjones61]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were taking influence as part of this, and generally trolls/ogres are in alliance with Dark Elves ("out of fear" says the guidebooks and whatnot methinks). Crushbone Orcs are holding the elves back and they're also in cahoots with Dark Elves.

For what it's worth, those 4 races were teaming up during the retake Grobb war events that happened on live. Rest of the races didn't really team up as much, but they didn't really have the incentive to do so since who cares if some amphebians hold Grobb or not. Still point is, methinks Dark Elves would use the fatties and orcs as their frontline then turn on them once the goodies are dealt with. And following Innoruuk's guidance they'd probably follow that up with starting to kill one another.

I think the stipulation is more that of an all vs all war. It's illogical, but necessary for the discussion at hand. Otherwise, this just turns into an all the good guys vs all of the bad guys scenario. If you want to pick teams, you have to come up with a plot as to how the war started, and why it is so controversial that there are so many sides.

So in this way, Dark Elves are unable to utilize the fatties.

Edit: My best go at a controversial war plotline is a battle of religions.

[Stonecrush]

The Elves would strike a three way alliance.
The High elves and wood elves believe in Tunare. Their mother.

The third branch to this alliance would be the wood elves with the Halfings. The halfling druids pray to Karana, the rain maker. They'd 'bring the rain" to their Kelethin immune to fire attacks.

The Human race is highly divided. EFP and WFP would try to do the work without NFP (healers). Unless the city was laid siege too and all of the major players involved were hit equally this city will fall. Qeynos is in the same situation. Although, I'd say Erudin would be more likey to strike an alliance with Qeynos than Paineel. Qeynos is to far for FP to grant aide. They are on their own. All ports into these areas lead to contested grounds (Nro) being the only exception. They are also vulnerable at sea. Attacks can come around their waters through their catacombs. They will have a lot of difficulties deal with on stopping infultration.

The Eurdites. They have more defenses and their own lands but they have similar vulnerabilities as man. Divided between Erudin and Paineel. Erudin can be attacked from the sea.

The Dark Elves would run Antonica like a raging torrent.

The Iksars would hold Kunark pretty well. The OT and FV being outposts and starting points for attack.

More later.

[Rjones61]

Originally Posted by Stonecrush [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Elves would strike a three way alliance.
The High elves and wood elves believe in Tunare. Their mother.

The third branch to this alliance would be the wood elves with the Halfings. The halfling druids pray to Karana, the rain maker. They'd 'bring the rain" to their Kelethin immune to fire attacks.

The Human race is highly divided. EFP and WFP would try to do the work without NFP (healers). Unless the city was laid siege too and all of the major players involved were hit equally this city will fall. Qeynos is in the same situation. Although, I'd say Erudin would be more likey to strike an alliance with Qeynos than Paineel. Qeynos is to far for FP to grant aide. They are on their own. All ports into these areas lead to contested grounds (Nro) being the only exception. They are also vulnerable at sea. Attacks can come around their waters through their catacombs. They will have a lot of difficulties deal with on stopping infultration.

The Eurdites. They have more defenses and their own lands but they have similar vulnerabilities as man. Divided between Erudin and Paineel. Erudin can be attacked from the sea.

The Dark Elves would run Antonica like a raging torrent.

The Iksars would hold Kunark pretty well. The OT and FV being outposts and starting points for attack.

More later.

As I mentioned earlier, we should avoid "making alliances" without a solid plotline that divides a majority of Norrath's races

"I think the stipulation is more that of an all vs all war. It's illogical, but necessary for the discussion at hand. Otherwise, this just turns into an all the good guys vs all of the bad guys scenario. If you want to pick teams, you have to come up with a plot as to how the war started, and why it is so controversial that there are so many sides.

So in this way, Dark Elves are unable to utilize the fatties.

Edit: My best go at a controversial war plotline is a battle of religions."

[Sarkhan]

I think the main contenders would be the Erudites, Humans, High elves and Dark elves.

The Dark elves are everywhere and have a lot of influence and allies with monsters. They have the outpost on Kunark as well making them one of only three races already established on Kunark.

[Sarkhan]

I think if the dark elves conquer the fatties first and then controlling them as their pawns after the fatties were completely dominated.

Certain races like the wood elves I don't think would be able to be controlled for the purpose of battle after their defeat but the ogres and trolls I think would definitely be willing to continue fighting for the dark elves if the Teir'Dal were to dominate them.