Twinks that won't group

[Daldaen]

Gonna quote my post from a semi relevant thread a month back. Where I feel in a bit more articulate:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=Soloing+skill

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Soloing generally speaking, is faster leveling.

For me personally, it means I don't have to deal with other people's AFKs / Lag / or sometimes just general stupidity! ALSO it means I can AFK whenever I want to and don't have to worry about people getting annoyed.

There are times I enjoy grouping, just like there are times I prefer to solo or just duo/trio.

It isn't a necessary skill by any means, you just see a lot of talk about it because that's the nature of the average player here:

Started EQ in 1999-2001. Likely in middle school-college range (12-20ish)
Add 10 years. These people are now mid 20s-30s. Have some combination of full time job, bills, wife, kids, etc.

Due to this many people do not have a life that can facilitate an 8 hour grind group. But they still love EQ and wish to play, so they ask ideas for soloing that they may not have done 10 years ago when doing this grind groups was no problem after school or inbetween classes.

There are definitely grind groups here and you can go 4-60 in groups exclusively. But there are definitely plenty of soloers here.

That isn't to say there aren't sucks out there with Fungi, Fungi Staff, Manastone and Donal's on their cleric twink who won't group with you. But a large number of people fall into the "I'm not in college anymore" category and soloing suits their lifestyle.

[Roth]

Soloing is better exp generally, but I find grouping to be much more stress-free experience. When you solo you have to work a lot harder for your kills and to not die. When you're in a group your exp bar is basically going to move no matter what happens, while soloing you might waste a ton of time accomplishing nothing.

[August]

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Soloing is better exp generally, but I find grouping to be much more stress-free experience. When you solo you have to work a lot harder for your kills and to not die. When you're in a group your exp bar is basically going to move no matter what happens, while soloing you might waste a ton of time accomplishing nothing.

You must play a class that sits on his ass in camp. Grouping is way more work for any class that I play (monk, shaman, enchanter).

[Roth]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must play a class that sits on his ass in camp. Grouping is way more work for any class that I play (monk, shaman, enchanter).

I play a shaman and you misunderstood my post I suppose. A good way to put it is when you solo, it is much higher risk generally. If you miscalculate you die. You have to find a suitable spot and you have to go through whatever your solo method is perfectly every time. There's more to lose. When you group if you make minor mistakes, your group will not wipe. If you pull an extra add it will get picked up and mezzed and it will be fine. The only way to die when you group is to make extremely major mistakes. A full group wipe is rare.

If I want to hit whatever level on a given day easily, I will group. Because when I solo the exp isn't as guaranteed. Things can go wrong easier, even if when doing it well you will gain exp faster.

[Bolix]

I think that soloing is faster xps for me (cleric non-twink). But you need to get a good soloing spot and have your technique down right. And soloing does allow you to AFK more to do real-life things.

Downsides are though:
1. Alot of time spent sitting down medding, which is really pretty boring.
2. Not very sociable, you can't talk to group mates.
3. Boring as you are doing the same thing to the same few mobs.
4. Can't go to interesting places or camp interesting things.
5. One dimensional.
6. Don't build up grouping skills (how do I interact with various other classes, what synergies can I develop, how do I work as part of a team).

If I have the time, I think it is better to group and I can understand the frustration of a non-twink having a hard time to get xp whenever the twinks are soloing all around them.
But ultimately its the choice of the player to group or solo

[Wudan]

I have a 30sk twinked to the teeth a I have not been in a group yet...

Exp is super fast (even with penalty) and I also have not died since lvl 1!

I can go fd/afk whenever I need to, I dont have to worry about having to be on the ball every second I play. Thats the playstyle I like and others do too. Deal with it.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by HawkMasterson1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing wrong but being a twink but whats the deal with people who think they're too elite to group? I decked out my shaman with the double fungi setup and i know all the different ways to solo but Its still better exp to get in a group. I even group with gearless noobs. Stop being snobs people.

The world does not revolve around you. Stop thinking that just because someone doesn't want to group it's some kind of insult to you. It's got nothing to do with you.

Mind your own business.

These sorts of antisocial complaints are not constructive.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by HawkMasterson1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing wrong but being a twink but whats the deal with people who think they're too elite to group? I decked out my shaman with the double fungi setup and i know all the different ways to solo but Its still better exp to get in a group. I even group with gearless noobs. Stop being snobs people.

You must not be soloing right then. Group xp isn't even close in comparison to a fungi twink soloing.

[Skittlez]

I can get 3 levels solo before you level once in a group.

[baalzy]

I can start xp'ing within 30 seconds of logging in when I solo.

I'd group more if that were the case, but instead its more like 30 minutes at the absolute best before the Xp starts and then it stops 20 minutes later and you're stuck waiting at least another 30 minutes.