Stupid idea

[Tecmos Deception]

No, it's not all necessarily good. But a server striving for classic mechanics AND a classic experience can't fully achieve both, and I think it is pretty plain that the staff here think the lesser evil is usually erring on the side of classic mechanics instead of trying to create custom mechanics to try to recreate the environment on live servers 15 years ago. So we have MQ mechanics and the people who take advantage of that.

If the people farming AC, who are allegedly maliciously blocking some other person from getting a ring directly (lol), weren't selling jboot MQs, what would happen? Instead of keke complaining about not being able to get his own jboots, he'd have his own jboots but would be complaining about some random droppable item being farmed by the guy who would have been at AC.

[cries4hardcore]

I recognize there will always be something to complain about, and that someone will always be complaining. I guess it's just a bit different here because new content is not being rolled out, what's available is meant to be limited and has a very clear cap. So people won't move on to new things thus opening up old shit. Either way, I'll be in ec tunnel buying jboots when I can afford them. Was just some food for thought. I'm departing this forum now. Happy hunting all.

[Kekephee]

first of all, maybe my memory is a little hazy but I don't remember MQ sales being at the level they are at on this server on live. Your contention that it's "classic" is, in my opinion, incorrect because on classic, yes, people sold MQs, but not nearly to the extent that they do here.

Second of all, jboots were one example. There are plenty of other things about which the same complaint could be, and has been, made. So, yeah, I guess "lolol that guy would be complaining about sumting else lolol" is kind of true, but at the same time, isn't it more demonstrative of the overall problem being, yes, pretty noticeable than of me being some kind of a whiny bitch? If everyone is screaming, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE FIXED, and it's not just some "this game is hard :-(" bullshit (which you're trying to play it off like it is,) doesn't that kind of mean there's a problem?

Oh, and I got my jboots, eventually. So I'm not just some whiny guy complaining about hard game here. I'm someone who sees a problem to which there is, ehhh KIND of a way to work around, but in an objective sense it would be a little better for everyone if it could be solved. So don't bother trying to play this "yeeheeheeeheeheee KEKE IS WHINER" shit. You're so into "the classic EQ experience," well I think it'd be a lot more like what I remember if people weren't MQing rogue epics and hoarding AC spawns all day. I have no idea which one of us is remembering this game right but I will tell you I had jboots on live and spent a lot of time working on an epic I never finished and at no point did I have to buy my Naggy book from Paradigm.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first of all, maybe my memory is a little hazy but I don't remember MQ sales being at the level they are at on this server on live. Your contention that it's "classic" is, in my opinion, incorrect because on classic, yes, people sold MQs, but not nearly to the extent that they do here.

I never contended "it's classic" because I draw a distinction between classic MECHANICS and classic EXPERIENCE. MQs are a classic mechanic. Selling MQs like people do on here is not a very classic experience. And like I said, staff seem to think that it is usually a better idea to have classic mechanics than to try their hand at custom mechanics in hopes of recreating a more classic experience.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so I'm guessing he really believes that back on live it was impossible to get your epic without buying it from TMO and no one ever got a pair of jboots who didn't pay for them

Again, you're not distinguishing classic mechanics from classic experience, and you need to because it is impossible to have both.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never contended "it's classic" because I draw a distinction between classic MECHANICS and classic EXPERIENCE. MQs are a classic mechanic. Selling MQs like people do on here is not a very classic experience. And like I said, staff seem to think that it is usually a better idea to have classic mechanics than to try their hand at custom mechanics in hopes of recreating a more classic experience.




Again, you're not distinguishing classic mechanics from classic experience, and you need to because it is impossible to have both.

That's fair. I'll buy it.

[Kekephee]

For the record, I am into emergent gameplay. I think it's great when people are able to actually use the game and how it works to do things differently and solve problems in creative ways. This is the same reason I think nerfing low hp kiting was... something. Not "bad," not "unnecessary," just, "not in the spirit of what's cool about EQ." Personally, I think Chardok AE is a complete racket, totally unfair and completely counter to the kind of EQ I like to play, BUT I don't ask that it be taken away from people because guess what, that's EQ, and someone had to die a lot to figure it out and it paid off for them and I'm behind it. As long as it doesn't totally step on the toes of other people who are trying to play (I don't think it does.) Low HP got nerfed because people got greedy and were taking the whole zone and stepped on too many toes. That's fair.

[Kekephee]

I mean as we speak I'm levelling a level 6 wizard on Red by pulling a shitload of green skeletons and AEing them down because I figured out the bone chips quest is better exp than killing mobs in my range. Am I hurting anyone? I'm not trying to- there seem to be plenty of mobs around for everyone else. Am I doing something that I think is pretty creative and not really "how people do it" most of the time? Yep, and it's working very well for me. This game is cool because it allows you to be creative. But don't dick other people over all day every day to do that.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean as we speak I'm levelling a level 6 wizard on Red by pulling a shitload of green skeletons and AEing them down because I figured out the bone chips quest is better exp than killing mobs in my range. Am I hurting anyone? I'm not trying to- there seem to be plenty of mobs around for everyone else. Am I doing something that I think is pretty creative and not really "how people do it" most of the time? Yep, and it's working very well for me. This game is cool because it allows you to be creative. But don't dick other people over all day every day to do that.

Leveling my 6 chanter on red by delivering mail to kelethin cause it's still faster than killing shit... lol.

WTB xp bonus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kekephee]

This argument that Chewie and everyone else is having about the exp bonus is really bumming me out. Having your EQ everything invested into a dead server must be so depressing.

[Kekephee]

PS you should try this bone chips shit, I'm sure you can kill 4 skeletons faster than you can run a letter from kelethin to FP and that's half a yellow of exp at 6