Scam

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't think this is bannable...there are lots of "myths" in mmos about what some items do outside of their readable stats. this is not lying in the sense of griefing. it is not fraud in the sense of most duping or claiming to do a MQ and then not doing the hand in.

i think the op has every right to rant on the guy and warn others that he is a peddler...but as far as a ban goes I don't think it is worthy.

Yeah, I don't think lying should be made a bannable offense, apart from specific circumstances (lying when applying for IP exemptions, etc). People need to take care of themselves (as was the case here - other individuals were brought into it to test what he said). I sure hope that a person who said any of what he said publicly (I doubt he would) would get hammered by knowledgeable people in the zone.

[guineapig]

The reason I say it isn't ban-able is because it's a very slippery slope.

Is the skull worth anything at all? Sure. How much is it worth? Has anyone tried selling one?

If I try to sell you a Batfang Headband. I claim "it's worth 10k but I'll sell it to you for 5k."

You take the bait and buy it. Did I cheat you? Maybe... I definitely gouged you compared to the going rate. Is this ban-able? No. Why not? because you should have done a price check instead of taking my word for it. I would not get banned for doing this.

I'll take it now to the next step.

I try to sell you gatorscale leggings for 2500pp when the going rate is 1500. (Not to mention that several months ago they were only 800.) Can you petition to ban me for this? Highly doubtful.

See what I'm getting at?

Trust me, I do not in any way condone this guys actions! ( Nor do I like current auction prices [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )
If I saw him in person I would love to give him a drop-kick and follow it up with the flying elbow (love wrestling references in tough guy talk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]).
I'm just saying.

[Anaiyah]

I for one think this is a pretty hilarious scam attempt, +10.

[Kastro]

on the other pvp server.. would auction from Halas an uber item or spell at a very low price.. get them to port/ run over and when they would put the plat in trade window.. try to Blind ( wasnt working right) root and nuke em down... even that was not considered a punishable offence.

[Enderenter]

Originally Posted by Kastro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on the other pvp server.. would auction from Halas an uber item or spell at a very low price.. get them to port/ run over and when they would put the plat in trade window.. try to Blind ( wasnt working right) root and nuke em down... even that was not considered a punishable offence.

This isn't a PvP server. 'Nuff said.

[Glad8tor]

I can understand both sides of this, but i would def say there should be something done about it but ONLY if he actually completed the scam. Then he would have been lieing and decieving another PC out of a highly valuable item by telling you a false fact about an ingame item. A slap on the wrist would do fine, maybe a 24 hour suspension? plus a flag and if the offense is repeated then smack a ban sticker on their forehead.

Now people say "well they shouldnt have been that gullible" but if someone scared you into giving them your wallet with their finger under there shirt pretending its a gun, then you find out and take your wallet back. Now dont you still want him to atleast get his shit kicked in for trying?

like a said 24 hour suspension = slap on wrist
repeated offense, BAN = Shit kicked in

Sincerely,
EQfiend

[cured]

Originally Posted by Kastro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on the other pvp server.. would auction from Halas an uber item or spell at a very low price.. get them to port/ run over and when they would put the plat in trade window.. try to Blind ( wasnt working right) root and nuke em down... even that was not considered a punishable offence.

Because that isn't a punishable offense, that is awesome. At least on a racewar server where you're supposed to be killing them, anyway.

A friend of mine had a dark elf enchanter and he'd take her to Freeport under a human illusion. Then he'd find a mark to kill and one to charm. He'd charm one guy, use him to kill the guy next to him at the bank, and loot the corpse and run.

That's how you do sneaky on a PvP server.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Anaiyah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I for one think this is a pretty hilarious scam attempt, +10.

I would have turned it around and asked the scammer if he wanted to buy a timeshare... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Noleafclover]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason I say it isn't ban-able is because it's a very slippery slope.

Is the skull worth anything at all? Sure. How much is it worth? Has anyone tried selling one?

If I try to sell you a Batfang Headband. I claim "it's worth 10k but I'll sell it to you for 5k."

You take the bait and buy it. Did I cheat you? Maybe... I definitely gouged you compared to the going rate. Is this ban-able? No. Why not? because you should have done a price check instead of taking my word for it. I would not get banned for doing this.

If you tell me the batfang headband has right click: win, it's a diff. category. There's a pretty clear line, slippery slope argument fail.

I'm not going HE MUST BE BANNED NOW, just asked if it was bannable. I want him to be stopped, because it sucks for anyone who falls for it. Newbies etc.

[Noleafclover]

I'm relatively satisfied that this thread made it to 4 pages so enough people know he's a scammer.

In other news, WTS djarn's ring.