Prop 8

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds like some 1984 stuff right there.

Yeah.. I think a bunch of these rednecks need to go to Room 101.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds like some 1984 stuff right there.

Yup. 1 vs. 7 million. 1 wins. Apply it to anything is the point, no matter what side of the fence in any issue. It's wrong. These libs chase minority rule, talk shit against the nature of my fellow citizens as if they are dolts. Their fools, and as in 1984, on the verge of starting a big dirty war (Iran etc) to keep/build their power. I'm not Rep or Dem, but for sure I'll be voting against the Dems this time around. I mean what votes are worth... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note: retraction of slime etc. Shouldn't speed read when outside lol

[makoho]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7 million slimes in this case, eh? Ruling the state/country from a bench is epic fail (absence of democratic voting process). So go on with your faulty comparisons and petty name calling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe if people wouldn't try to force their "moral" view of human relationships into democracy this wouldnt need to happen, but it did.

[Extunarian]

Slimmest is the superlative form of slim. I see how you were confused though, as you thought I wrote slimiest. I also re-read my post and I really don't see any name calling there.

A judge issues rulings from the bench, i.e. they 'rule from the bench.' You clearly meant to imply they change or create laws from the bench, otherwise known as 'legislating from the bench.'

And yes, in this case the democratic voting process did take place, however the amendment to the constitution of California was deemed unconstitutional by a Federal judge being guided by the Federal constitution. In fact, the reason the California constitution even needed to be amended was because the CA supreme court said a law banning same-sex marriage was unconstitutional.

The democratic process still has another avenue - we could just amend the Federal constitution to ban these unions, and then the courts could not overturn these laws. See? Checks and balances.

[Troy]

Damn judges expecting laws to be in line with the Constitution; don't they understand that God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve?

</sarcasm, just to be clear>

[Extunarian]

Libs chasing minority rule? Take a look at how many times the republicans have used the filibuster in this congress to rule with a 41-59 minority.

The courts are obligated to interpret laws - and often that means one judge or a small panel will overrule something enacted by a far greater number. However we also grant veto power to executives, who can use it to unilaterally overrule their legislative body. And just as a legislature can overrule a veto, Judges' decisions can be overruled by changing laws or amending constitutions.

[Allizia]

I got asked what country Norway was in by some friends in college when I was planning a trip there =/ sad times. I swear I'm the only person I know that can accurately spell most 5+ letter words as well, it's downright embarrassing sometimes.

[Extunarian]

Ha I missed that. "On the verge of starting a big dirty war (Iran etc)."

Hello? I believe we are already in 2 of them? If only I could remember what party controlled both houses of congress and the white house in 2001-2002...

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Extunarian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ha I missed that. "On the verge of starting a big dirty war (Iran etc)."

And 1984 wasn't a pre-war book by any stretch of the imagination... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And 1984 wasn't a pre-war book by any stretch of the imagination... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

..although I've heard an interpretation that stated that there actually was no war, even that there was no eurasia or eastasia.. ..that oceania was in fact a global state.. ..that Goldstein never existed. It was all manufactured to keep the proles and the "outer" party in a constant state of terror. Manufacturing Consent anyone?