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Old 01-31-2014, 01:00 PM
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the two rites of passage for a rogue are sneaking down into LGUK to loot a rotting guise of the deceiver when you're <20, and doing the burning rapier quest. These were my 2 favorite non-raid experiences on the server as a rogue.

Get any 10 damage piercer for your mainhand until you can afford the rapier of oriin. burning rapier is a solid offhand until you can pick up something like a sebilite croaking dirk.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:05 PM
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Don't buy an SCD before your epic. A Crystalline Short Sword will last you in the offhand until 60 and that's about 10% of the cost of an SCD.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:06 PM
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but it's ugly.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:07 PM
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roll barb

max str

then max sta

thats it
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:14 PM
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At lvl 60 I'd say it's a 60/40 split between autoattack damage and backstabs so you always want to go with the better ratio over big slow backstabbers. Good news the Epic is super easy and you can start working on it from a low level (don't buy it, quest it)

Don't listen to the people here talking about putting stats into strength dump as much stats into stamina as you can, if you are not a barbarian put any extra into str.

Str caps for melee are a joke in Kunark and you can your strength around the 200 mark you will be maxed out in a single shaman buff everything over is wasted if you ever plan on raiding or grouping with str buff classes.

Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs
Dex does NOT help with backstabs

Edit: and for Christ sakes when you get to 50+ do plane of sky with a guild, every week just find a day you can raid of sky and find join the guild that raids it. Plane of sky quest drops are some of the best gear for a rogue in Kunark and it will drastically improve your survivability and DPS.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:15 PM
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roll barb

max str

then max sta

thats it
I like it.
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:19 PM
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roll barb

max str

then max sta

thats it
I rolled a dwarf rogue.

Bad?
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:21 PM
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I rolled a dwarf rogue.

Bad?
nah they're prolly 2nd in the league table (ahead of halflings for stats imo if not the same xp bonus)
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:17 PM
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Actually I just read Tiggles' post. Now I'm distraught :/
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:30 PM
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Backstab IS what gives rogues their great DPS. Warriors / Monks can get weapon combos that are just as effective as the melee combos of a rogue (monks even better cause of ridic 2hbs). Rangers also have just as good weapon combos (tho a lower cap on melee skills, for now). So pure melee damage in an ideal situation to deal DPS is going to be pretty even between Rogue/Warrior/Monk. It's the 'extra' things they can do which changes their ranking in the DPS charts. Flying Kick for Monk is ultimately what gives them the advantage over a Warrior, because it vastly out damages kick. Backstab is what ultimately gives the Rogue an advantage over a Monk. For a ranger they'd need to be using their DoTs/Nukes/Bow in a smart manner in order to out damage a warrior (at least until velious lands and they get Call of Fire to give them extra DD procs, assuming they don't pull agro and die).

So, that said, focusing on maxing out your backstabs is what will give the best DPS and from the sounds of that the only thing which will boost your backstab damage is having a higher base DMG weapon. If you can't get your hands on a ragefire then go with a rapier of orin or a Serpent's Tooth.

You could also go with a 1hb or 1hs in your main hand and hot swap in an Efreeti War spear (15/40) or Crystalline spear (13/30) to backstab with. I'm not entirely sure how the delay on them affects backstab though.

Of course, as others have said, by the time you're high enough level for anyone to notice the difference you should have a ragebringer.
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