Elder Scrolls Online Preorder out, rage incoming

[MrSparkle001]

Bought the imperial edition for $64.

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[Psionide]

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they care more about siphoning as much $ from you than they do about creating a quality game.

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This is pretty much the business practice of every buisness out there these days. This is like when I buy a ticket that is supposed to grant me entrance into a venue but then also have to pay a "facility fee." Back in the day companies and salespeople used to care about a relationship with their consumers; today it's all about sucking that last possibly dollar they can get no matter what kind of bad taste they leave in the consumers mouth.

[Grimfan]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they care more about siphoning as much $ from you than they do about creating a quality game.

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This is pretty much the business practice of every buisness out there these days. This is like when I buy a ticket that is supposed to grant me entrance into a venue but then also have to pay a "facility fee." Back in the day companies and salespeople used to care about a relationship with their consumers; today it's all about sucking that last possibly dollar they can get no matter what kind of bad taste they leave in the consumers mouth.

Nope, not the same thing. This is like giving you an option to have a ticket into a venue that gives you a seat with a partial view with the option of upgrading for 20$ to a front row seat with an unobstructed view. What you just described is a hidden surcharge, there is nothing hidden about this. I really do wish people would figure out what they are angry about.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a modern day digital collectors edition, if you haven't been playing MMO's since 2004, I understand, so I will lay it down for you with a few recent examples.

Rift: http://biobreak.wordpress.com/2011/0...tion-worth-it/

This is before it went Free to Play.

SWTOR: http://techland.time.com/2011/12/20/...-old-republic/

This is before it went FTP, the digital deluxe version had all the in game goodies without the cool stuff in the box.

TERA: http://store.steampowered.com/app/212753/?cc=nl

This shit is still available and was on day one. This is the same edition from before it went FTP.

The idea I'm trying to get across to you is that this is the normal thing now. Almost every game launches with a digital add-on package of mounts and such that you can buy. Most of these games did not start with a cash shop, in fact none of them did. Yes they found the FTP model more lucrative in the long run but that's just how things have evolved.

And all those games were complete shit. They found the FTP model "more lucrative" because their shitty cashgrab MMOs failed and they didn't have a playerbase to get subscription $ through anymore.

Thanks for proving my point though.

Can TSO even last through the summer before crashing and burning and going FTP?

[Psionide]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, not the same thing. This is like giving you an option to have a ticket into a venue that gives you a seat with a partial view with the option of upgrading for 20$ to a front row seat with an unobstructed view. What you just described is a hidden surcharge, there is nothing hidden about this. I really do wish people would figure out what they are angry about.

I wasn't saying it was like the ESO model. I was using that as example of companies nowadays that try to get every dollar out of you that they can. Also, I was defending the Imperial Edition on the first page. I really do wish people would read.

[Estolcles]

Making it so that one entire race is only available to a select few instead of the entire player base is a bad idea. It's like the half-elf comment earlier.

Because I can't preorder or afford the special edition, I can't play a race I normally always play as in the previous 1 player games.

This ruins the game for me, meaning that's one less person who's gonna buy it. I know I'm not the only one in this hole. This is gonna cost them some customers.

Hopefully they'll figure this out, and make the Imperials availble somewhere further down the line.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bought the imperial edition for $64.

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Me to bro, haters gonna hate.

[Breeziyo]

AtlanTES will sink just like TORtanic did. The only MMO that looks like it might be decent at the moment is Wildstar, but even that's iffy.

This exclusive pre-order race made me genuinely laugh and I'm glad I never bought into the hype.

[Swish]

Shit is pretty stupid, locking everyone else out of playing a certain race etc.

Hopefully they'll "pull an EA" who basically gave out the BF3 Karkand map to everyone who signed up to "premium" despite people paying extra for the collector's/premium edition box.

Again though, we're a dying generation of gamers... youngsters out there from WoW onwards are used to this shit now and it won't stop them buying it :/

[Grubbz]

All i hear is "wha wha im to poor to afford game wha wha"