In Response, How many would start on a new blue server?

[Tecmos Deception]

What gets me about the people who want a new blue server is this: none of you guys ever really give reasons why the new server would be more fun for you. You just give reasons why the current one is less fun for you. OTHER people are rich. OTHER people are twinked. OTHER people are PLing. OTHER people are selling MQs. You seem to think that a faster progression will stop OTHER people from doing more stuff faster and better than you will.

I think you guys don't realize that there will be OTHER people on a new blue server too.

How is your relative situation really going to be that different a year from now on a new blue server instead of current blue? Instead of being on a server where there's, admittedly, a ton of plat and items and high-level characters, with people steamrolling through Velious and buying and selling new gear for hundreds of thousands of plat, you'll be near the end of Kunark where the casual players are still only level 40 and the hardcore players have had a 110% lockdown of raid content since the release of the server. Rotations won't even be able to help you when most of your guildies can't even zone into the planes yet, let alone deal with Kunark bosses.

Then you enter Velious with a guild or two in a smattering of "good" gear with the majority of the server sub-50 and starting threads on the forums about how they want a new blue server because of all the same things people do not... just with a new reason instead of "slow timeline." Don't forget that the new server's Velious will be somewhat buggy, since as hard as the staff try it is impossible to release a perfect expansion.


Just quit it with these threads and try to stop letting your fun on current blue be spoiled by what other people are doing. Then a few years from now when Velious is done and the whole classic experience is ironed out, you can play on the new server they'll make then.

[IronLionn]

Heallun im watching your immersion levels.....

If they reach critical were going to have to shut you down.....

[Tecmos Deception]

But hey, if I'm wrong and it isn't your situation RELATIVE TO OTHER PLAYERS that is making you want a new blue server? Well please do tell me why you want a new one. I'm all ears.

[Swish]

Maybe we've got a group of people who not only don't want Velious, but don't want Kunark either? Good luck with those LGuk spawns and seeing 100s of people in SMRs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What gets me about the people who want a new blue server is this: none of you guys ever really give reasons why the new server would be more fun for you. You just give reasons why the current one is less fun for you. OTHER people are rich. OTHER people are twinked. OTHER people are PLing. OTHER people are selling MQs. You seem to think that a faster progression will stop OTHER people from doing more stuff faster and better than you will.

I think you guys don't realize that there will be OTHER people on a new blue server too.

How is your relative situation really going to be that different a year from now on a new blue server instead of current blue? Instead of being on a server where there's, admittedly, a ton of plat and items and high-level characters, with people steamrolling through Velious and buying and selling new gear for hundreds of thousands of plat, you'll be near the end of Kunark where the casual players are still only level 40 and the hardcore players have had a 110% lockdown of raid content since the release of the server. Rotations won't even be able to help you when most of your guildies can't even zone into the planes yet, let alone deal with Kunark bosses.

Then you enter Velious with a guild or two in a smattering of "good" gear with the majority of the server sub-50 and starting threads on the forums about how they want a new blue server because of all the same things people do not... just with a new reason instead of "slow timeline." Don't forget that the new server's Velious will be somewhat buggy, since as hard as the staff try it is impossible to release a perfect expansion.


Just quit it with these threads and try to stop letting your fun on current blue be spoiled by what other people are doing. Then a few years from now when Velious is done and the whole classic experience is ironed out, you can play on the new server they'll make then.

Honestly feel that wealth accumulation and the lack of resets are one of the major issues on p99. If you were to have your wealth reset every so often at random intervals, would you still horde it? It's caused some pretty awful shit like camp disputes and this endless epic MQ (no not fucking rogue MQs, more mage staff MQs) debacle. I'd just like to see the tears, mostly :3

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly feel that wealth accumulation and the lack of resets are one of the major issues on p99. If you were to have your wealth reset every so often at random intervals, would you still horde it? It's caused some pretty awful shit like camp disputes and this endless epic MQ (no not fucking rogue MQs, more mage staff MQs) debacle. I'd just like to see the tears, mostly :3

Not only would I not horde it, I wouldn't be playing.

RPGs have always been about progressing a character through a storyline and exploring new places while growing in power and wealth. MMORPGs are that (though usually less story and more power+wealth) in a persistent world.

Resetting wealth ruins a lot of what an MMO like EQ is about.


And if someone is going to make the argument that I'm just a greedy bastard and that the people who want a new blue server just want to get away from people like me and play the game without concern for riches? You can do that on blue right now if you can muster up the willpower to stop caring about OTHER people and just play the game how YOU want to play it. And again, OTHER people are just going to be on a new server doing all the exact same things they did/do on here anyways.

[Coridan]

Better solution would be some ways to get plat out of the game. Newer games do it with housing, item decay etc. Dunno ways to do it here, but I recommend roulette tables in Highkeep where the server is the house rather than the EC gamblers. Maybe let people buy titles.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What gets me about the people who want a new blue server is this: none of you guys ever really give reasons why the new server would be more fun for you. You just give reasons why the current one is less fun for you. OTHER people are rich. OTHER people are twinked. OTHER people are PLing. OTHER people are selling MQs. You seem to think that a faster progression will stop OTHER people from doing more stuff faster and better than you will.

I think you guys don't realize that there will be OTHER people on a new blue server too.

How is your relative situation really going to be that different a year from now on a new blue server instead of current blue? Instead of being on a server where there's, admittedly, a ton of plat and items and high-level characters, with people steamrolling through Velious and buying and selling new gear for hundreds of thousands of plat, you'll be near the end of Kunark where the casual players are still only level 40 and the hardcore players have had a 110% lockdown of raid content since the release of the server. Rotations won't even be able to help you when most of your guildies can't even zone into the planes yet, let alone deal with Kunark bosses.

Then you enter Velious with a guild or two in a smattering of "good" gear with the majority of the server sub-50 and starting threads on the forums about how they want a new blue server because of all the same things people do not... just with a new reason instead of "slow timeline." Don't forget that the new server's Velious will be somewhat buggy, since as hard as the staff try it is impossible to release a perfect expansion.


Just quit it with these threads and try to stop letting your fun on current blue be spoiled by what other people are doing. Then a few years from now when Velious is done and the whole classic experience is ironed out, you can play on the new server they'll make then.

^This.

Anyway...

I really don't feel like starting again. I probably would, only if I weren't given the choice. I like EQ. I like P99. In that thread a week or two ago, asking what we would change about P99, my response was "Cats on the Moon" because I find everything else about P99 enjoyable.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Better solution would be some ways to get plat out of the game. Newer games do it with housing, item decay etc. Dunno ways to do it here, but I recommend roulette tables in Highkeep where the server is the house rather than the EC gamblers. Maybe let people buy titles.

Why do you think having a lot of plat in the game is necessarily a bad thing? It makes some activities like farming fs weapons or farming HGs/SFs relatively less profitable, but it makes farming many items relatively more profitable.

It seems like some players see prices of a fungi or cof in ec and then rush to the forums to complain that inflation is making it impossible for them to buy uber gear, as if reducing pp totals overall would make these items relatively cheaper or something. It is SUPPOSED to be difficult to get/buy best-in-slot gear!

[Coridan]

My bigger problem with it is when I see lazy people able to throw out a couple dozen plat for bone chip stacks and bear pelts, which makes it very easy for a lower level player to basically twink themselves. This makes it super easy for someone to get good gear and makes some of the more classic gear utterly worthless. People used to pay for dervish rings and minotaur axes.

I am sure most don't mind and hell my lvl 13 bard has drake hide leggings and iksar scaled gloves, but it feels wrong in my gut. I much prefer my earned items like my Dragoon Dirk.