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 Also, you could still swim with no stamina/endurance. 
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 |   I played a Warrior in early 2000. I remember I have to sit a lot to regain stamina. No Disk, no jump and yes stats dropped. They had to cast spells to speed it up. It was a long regen if not. It was just part of the game. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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 I also played a human warrior on live, and when I ran out of endurance I could not run, instead you walk like you are critically injured. You can barely swing weapons -- i.e. you have to wait until you regain enough endurance to make your next swing. I know swimming was affected more severely, but I'm not 100% sure what happened, I don't think you'd drown. You also weren't able to use discs. | |||
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