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Old 12-29-2013, 06:36 PM
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I presumed he meant account with my statements.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:36 PM
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I still do very much see all the positives that keep people together and bring more in and they definitely outweigh the negatives in my opinion, but we shouldn't have to settle and cut our experience short.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:36 PM
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You know maybe you're all right. We have an opportunity here to come up with a system so complicated maybe Nobel prizes can be won and Rogean is just the man for the job.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:55 PM
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You know, if this project 99 works and has a success it is precisely because of the "casual scum".
It is them that make the crushing majority of players, groups, help and fun.
Not some self proclaimed "elite" guilds that log in for 10 minutes to take some mob down at improbable hours and then log off.
If such "elite" guilds deleted all their accounts, the rest of the server would not even notice.
However if the "casual scum" that is here for fun, nostalgy and reliving some of the good old times deleted their accounts, the server would become a hopeless desert.

And it is because the "casual scum" makes the server a living place that their opinion is actually much more important than the one of any "elite" guild members however "elite" they think they are.

I am glad that you have spoken for this vast majority of "casual scum" and agree with everything [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:10 PM
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You know, if this project 99 works and has a success it is precisely because of the "casual scum".
It is them that make the crushing majority of players, groups, help and fun.
Not some self proclaimed "elite" guilds that log in for 10 minutes to take some mob down at improbable hours and then log off.
If such "elite" guilds deleted all their accounts, the rest of the server would not even notice.
However if the "casual scum" that is here for fun, nostalgy and reliving some of the good old times deleted their accounts, the server would become a hopeless desert.

And it is because the "casual scum" makes the server a living place that their opinion is actually much more important than the one of any "elite" guild members however "elite" they think they are.

I am glad that you have spoken for this vast majority of "casual scum" and agree with everything [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Playing in an untwinked group in Crushbone is still the most fun and challenging EQ experience by my mind. Ranger, Rogue, Bard, Mage, Wizard, Druid groups FTW. The mage says, "Let my pet tank.". The ranger says, "1 more level and I get snare!". The bard says, "AFK" and leaves Jaxan's Jig O Vigor playing. The druid says, "Does anyone have a fire beetle eye?". The mob says, "<Stop! Thief!>". And the wizard says, "It'll be a few, I'm still bound in Steamfont."
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:23 PM
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Playing in an untwinked group in Crushbone is still the most fun and challenging EQ experience by my mind. Ranger, Rogue, Bard, Mage, Wizard, Druid groups FTW. The mage says, "Let my pet tank.". The ranger says, "1 more level and I get snare!". The bard says, "AFK" and leaves Jaxan's Jig O Vigor playing. The druid says, "Does anyone have a fire beetle eye?". The mob says, "<Stop! Thief!>". And the wizard says, "It'll be a few, I'm still bound in Steamfont."
Obviously you never grouped with Lenfer.

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Old 12-29-2013, 07:47 PM
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Please see my other post. I am guessing you got upset over Derubael quoting myself and Cucumbers. At no point was I saying anything about casuals. The Casual vs Hardcore thing never came up. The raid scene isn't casual and never will be by very nature. So at no point was I saying anything about casuals. Since it is impossible to be casual and have a shot at a 3-7day mob when you have this many people on a server with a good portion willing to compete and fight for the spawns that are available.. I have been berated for not being hardcore enough. So I can completely understand and respect casual players.

The goal of this server is classic EQ. I am not sure about you but on Live I didn't see casual guilds getting raid targets like Trak, VS, VP. I mean hell they added the triggered VS and other mobs just so casuals had a shot at their epics. On live I never saw one of those mobs until I joined a raiding guild or post Velious when the raiding guilds all moved to Velious raiding.

Oh and yes it was classic to have more than one account the only thing was you had to be willing to spend the money on a second or even third account.
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:56 PM
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Rogean and gms just sitting back Laughing over all this squabbling while relishing tmos soon to be endless suspension. They'll say it will be resolved after x but then make y rule later to cockblock it. They easily have the abilty to pick one of the dozens of proposals on this board but they'd rather wait and have their favies collect uncontested pd loot and gear every 50+ with trak bps. You can't change human nature and you can't change the competitive sprit of Classic eq. Go play other mmos if u can't hang

It's ok though, even completely innocent tmo like myself and dozens of others didn't share the toys wow style, so we're all bad ppl and deserve 100% arbitrary treatmrnt because consistency is so overrated. This server is a shadow of its former self and a joke at this point lol. I propose we just give all 50+ epics, instance named pops based on how carebare we are, and ban all Alts because Alts give ppl an advAntage over each other which just isn't fair.

I'm not going to even go into the timeline 3 years of kunark almost rofl. If u are new to server and thinking about playing past lvl 30, take my advice and don't waste your time like I have, because at the end of the day the staff here is unpredictable and incredibly slow at development and have really little interest in catering to all players. If they were, they would have treated the many innocent longtime community members with some shred of respect and an OPEN ear
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:02 PM
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I don't understand the point of zerging a mob that is no challenge whatsoever for loot that will probably just go to a 7th alt or something.
One thing I have noticed in the 6 months I've been playing is people have seemed the happiest and most optimistic over this last week or so and seem to be having fun.
LOL ^
You are getting your information from "casual scum" it seems , because you are highly misinformed, and eating up propaganda like I would expect from someone who only reads the forums.
Do you really play in game?
The point in raiding a mob is for the gear. So hope you understand that part?
An I have seen even the biggest raid guild die or wipe , but yet you claim its 0 challenge? What do you consider a "zerg"? what #? 20? 30?
Sounds like your just copy pasting shit from forums and no idea what it even means.
New people join the big guilds daily, and they need gear. A lot of peoples mains are still missing gear too. It is not going to some 7th alt , and most the time it is a main characters upgrade.
There are a few Elites in the top guilds though...you have your small crew that are insanely rich and hold the guild bank / sale items an bank plat an gear up there 7th alt before your main is. But that is not everyone . You are categorizing everyone together falsely IMO.
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If someone is so focused on "winning" this server maybe they should move to a game that is well..actually new?
Any new game is instanced, no corpse runs, port anywhere, be any class at anytime, 0 competition in most, etc the list goes on.
Which it sounds like that is what YOU want. These new games tend especially to your needs. As you say it "casual scumbag" these games are made FOR YOU. There are HUNDREDS of games that do exactly as you wish. This is classic Everquest.
It is not some walk in the park easy mode game , where the casual is as geared as the hardcore. If you want shit handed out than almost any game you name will help you out with that. In todays MMO gaming it is all about the casual getting the same as everyone else, or having the option to pay to win.

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The amount of extra accounts people have here is not classic. Therefore, we need an un-classic solution for this.

I propose we figure out what zone is a somewhat equal distance away from the various raid targets and have a NPC placed there. Once this NPC is hailed a ~1-2 hour buff is placed on the player and persists through death. This buff would allow them to get onto a raid mobs hate list without being either DT'd or Banished to the middle of OOT (up to the staff)

This would require everyone to start at the same point when racing for mobs. The Alt Army would still have a leg up on other people because they could log out their army at the NPC and would only have to race from A to B. While people with one toon would have to tag the NPC first before rushing off to kill trak etc. But over all this would even the playing field I think and create a more fun and exciting raid environment.
That is way to much work for not that big of a problem.
Seems everyone is losing their minds trying to find out a solution for free pixels. Forum questing is not going to work. You will get some mobs out of this. But you guys expecting 100% rotation on EVERY SINGLE RAID MOB are delusional.


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Please see my other post. I am guessing you got upset over Derubael quoting myself and Cucumbers.
Oh and yes it was classic to have more than one account the only thing was you had to be willing to spend the money on a second or even third account.
I do not think he mentions you lol? Dunno why your other posts about casual scum would matter, there are plenty of casual scum posts the past week.
Also dude is talking about people having 7 level 60s on one account. People that have them all on different accounts are either 1. probably banned because they shared accounts or 2. RMT accounts.
There is no need for characters on different accounts if you do not share them or sale them.

TL DR Good luck with forum questing for dragons
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:03 PM
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Rogean and gms just sitting back Laughing over all this squabbling while relishing tmos soon to be endless suspension. They'll say it will be resolved after x but then make y rule later to cockblock it. They easily have the abilty to pick one of the dozens of proposals on this board but they'd rather wait and have their favies collect uncontested pd loot and gear every 50+ with trak bps. You can't change human nature and you can't change the competitive sprit of Classic eq. Go play other mmos if u can't hang

It's ok though, even completely innocent tmo like myself and dozens of others didn't share the toys wow style, so we're all bad ppl and deserve 100% arbitrary treatmrnt because consistency is so overrated. This server is a shadow of its former self and a joke at this point lol. I propose we just give all 50+ epics, instance named pops based on how carebare we are, and ban all Alts because Alts give ppl an advAntage over each other which just isn't fair.

I'm not going to even go into the timeline 3 years of kunark almost rofl. If u are new to server and thinking about playing past lvl 30, take my advice and don't waste your time like I have, because at the end of the day the staff here is unpredictable and incredibly slow at development and have really little interest in catering to all players. If they were, they would have treated the many innocent longtime community members with some shred of respect and an OPEN ear
Relax.

There's still plenty of options to talk about and some meet-ups to be had before any decisions are made.
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