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View Poll Results: Which changes would you like to see?
Xasten-style Bag Limit 69 25.84%
Sloan-style Delays 119 44.57%
No Poopsocking 117 43.82%
Petition for repops 93 34.83%
Petition for variance reduction 95 35.58%
Bush knocked down the towers/Loraen is my hero/I always check the 'retard' option on polls 37 13.86%
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:30 PM
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The whole 2 hour delay thing is brilliant in my opinion and probably the most simple solution to a lot of problems.
My problem with the two hour delays (and this is not a knock on Unbrella or Sloan or anyone else who came up with it) is that you still have to track targets for 48 hours on average. I just refuse to do that.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:33 PM
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Jeremy I have an awesome solution to all this just you wait
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:38 PM
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Give every guild a weekly allowance (certain amount) let's say 100.

Give every raid target a value based on demand, let's say PD is valued at 50.

Any guild that takes out PD is now left with only 50 raid allowance.

Then just go from there. CT/Inny/VS/ could all be set at 30. VP dragons (except PD) could be 10s along with Kunark world dragons. Draco could be a 15. Vox/Naggy/maestro 10s.

DKP yo!

IDK, something like that could easily be tracked and gives some weekly planning by each guild.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:41 PM
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Give every guild a weekly allowance (certain amount) let's say 100.

Give every raid target a value based on demand, let's say PD is valued at 50.

Any guild that takes out PD is now left with only 50 raid allowance.

Then just go from there. CT/Inny/VS/ could all be set at 30. VP dragons (except PD) could be 10s along with Kunark world dragons. Draco could be a 15. Vox/Naggy/maestro 10s.

DKP yo!

IDK, something like that could easily be tracked and gives some weekly planning by each guild.
Not bad.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:42 PM
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Give every guild a weekly allowance (certain amount) let's say 100.

Give every raid target a value based on demand, let's say PD is valued at 50.

Any guild that takes out PD is now left with only 50 raid allowance.

Then just go from there. CT/Inny/VS/ could all be set at 30. VP dragons (except PD) could be 10s along with Kunark world dragons. Draco could be a 15. Vox/Naggy/maestro 10s.

DKP yo!

IDK, something like that could easily be tracked and gives some weekly planning by each guild.
That's kind of interesting... sort of like a weighted version of Xasten's idea.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:44 PM
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That's kind of interesting... sort of like a weighted version of Xasten's idea.
I kinda like it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:48 PM
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reasonable idea
The difference between me and 95% of the rest of the people in this thread is that I am more concerned with making the raid scene fun than I am with dividing the pixels evenly.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:50 PM
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I really like that idea because I really like spreadsheets.

Seriously though, good idea; a nice combination of clarity and flexibility while still allowing guilds to exercise a number of strategies in the race for pixels.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:52 PM
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I think trying to divide things equally is a bit of a step in the wrong direction. I think you need to make a system that promotes competition but also naturally deters monopolies. This is someone who doesn't actively raid right now so take that with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:56 PM
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The difference between me and 95% of the rest of the people in this thread is that I am more concerned with making the raid scene fun than I am with dividing the pixels evenly.
I think everyone here knows I prefer the cutthroat raiding scene, but what I posted is something I'd be willing to go with. It's not about cutting the pie evenly so much and it brings some strategy into the mix while also limiting the amount that a guild can monopolize the raid scene.

Poopsocking definitely needs to be made a raid offence by the server staff and players. Should definitely carry a huge penalty. I'd say if something like what I mentioned was implemented, poopsocking should carry a heavy weight/cost and should be taken from a guild for poopsocking regardless if they kill the target or not. It's the worst thing about raiding on p99 right up under tracking the long variance windows.
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