Sirken locks thread before I can say good call

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who want to raid on this server should have learned long ago that the prerequisite to doing so is being able to separate your RL ethics and morals from your virtual ones. Idealism and principles mean nothing when the rules of the game do not recognize them.

So that's what I've been doing wrong, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you guys employed?

I am.

[Hitpoint]

I see the guy frapsing doing /who forceful. Which shows 1 person. I never once see him /who inglourious which should show at least two more people I think.

Pull was direct to west wall. If you guys hadn't pulled it off the bard, who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in, maybe he would have been killed before the rest of us got there.

I understand it's upsetting to lose the mob with so many in zone. But we kept the mob tracked for it's whole window, we're definitely going to attempt to kill it when it spawns.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no kite because BDA pulled Draco off before any kite was initiated - it was straight pulled to Westwall and tanked; whether or not there would have been a kite if they did not is the only question here. You cannot pull a mob off before there is a kite claiming that there would have been a kite.

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he pulled it to his raid right? oh wait

if you aren't pulling it to a raid then it's A KITE, holy shit why is that so hard to understand?

If there was no raid to pull to...is it a kite?

[Aeaolena]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see the guy frapsing doing /who forceful. Which shows 1 person. I never once see him /who inglourious which should show at least two more people I think.

Pull was direct to west wall. If you guys hadn't pulled it off the bard, who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in, maybe he would have been killed before the rest of us got there.

I understand it's upsetting to lose the mob with so many in zone. But we kept the mob tracked for it's whole window, we're definitely going to attempt to kill it when it spawns.

It doesn't matter if it was directly pulled to the west wall, as you say directly in your post:

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in

Yes, exactly, and as it says per the written rules:

A: It is now against server policy to indefinitely kite, or otherwise keep occupied, a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp. You either bring it to your raid, die, or zone out. Obvious stall-kiting of a raid mob, especially in situations to prevent engagement by another guild, will result in disciplinary actions against the kiter's account, and possibly their raid/guild leadership.

or otherwise keep occupied

or

It sucks to be tracking a mob all that time and run the risk of disadvantage of a guild that already has a force in the zone.. but sitting a bard on the spawn point and stalling "otherwise keep occupied" a mob until the rest of your force zones in is not "bringing it back to your raid camp".

No idiot would argue that two people is a "raid camp", and as your said yourself:

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who was planning to tank it straight up until the rest of the raid zoned in

Stalling.

Grow a pair and get your force in the zone before you pull. Winning by shady tactics is so TMO.

[BigLe2e]

Originally Posted by Aeaolena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter if it was directly pulled to the west wall, as you say directly in your post:




Yes, exactly, and as it says per the written rules:






It sucks to be tracking a mob all that time and run the risk of disadvantage of a guild that already has a force in the zone.. but sitting a bard on the spawn point and stalling "otherwise keep occupied" a mob until the rest of your force zones in is not "bringing it back to your raid camp".

No idiot would argue that two people is a "raid camp", and as your said yourself:


Stalling.

Grow a pair and get your force in the zone before you pull. Winning by shady tactics is so TMO.

^pretty much this

[Ahldagor]

sirken explained it

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=130641&page=3

quit whining

[Hitpoint]

I took this from the rule you quoted, "a raid mob without intention of bringing it to your raid camp." He brought draco right to our camp and didn't move. Just as he said he was going to in vent.

Well, Draco is one groupable. So I wouldn't say 3-4 people are incapable of fighting it while the rest of the raid zone in. There was a druid with a soulfire, a monk, and something else (maybe wizard?) in there with supremacy. And there were many others running through the lich tunnels, seconds away.

It's totally understandable to be mad about this stuff. But we've lost Draco to tmo the exact same way, many times, and vis versa. It happens all the time. The bard goes out to kite the trash and FTE draco while he's the only one in zone. By the time he gets back to camp 2-3 more people have zoned in and they can all stay alive until the killforce gets there. It's upsetting, but we don't petition this when it happens.

[Autotune]

IB has killed Draco with like 3 or 4 people before. So I wouldn't go with the "3 people aren't a raid force" lol.