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Old 12-07-2013, 04:53 AM
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I never said I condoned being a piece of shit or did I say thievery was a noble thing.
I just believe that people who pass their individual responsibility onto others by doing things such as dropping a phone, cash, being careless in general or other dumb shit, don't deserve to be helped. I would rather help/ look out for someone who helps /looks out for themselves. If I drop my phone somewhere (wouldn't because I'm not careless, dumb, or irresponsible) I wouldn't blame someone for stealing it, because it was MY FAULT they were able to in the first place.



I just can't stand this bullshit idea in peoples head that people aren't themselves (and absolutely no one else) responsible for their life, belongings, and actions. If someone drops 100 dollars because they are careless, oblivious, and like most people walk through their day as a zombie...that is their own fault...not the next person who found it blowing in the wind.


If people took responsibility for themselves the world would be a fuckload better. But as we all know we are living in a welfare-mentality world where people can just get taken care of by others instead of doing it themselves.
Yous dumb.

Stupidity deserves to be punished, amiright? It's one thing to consider negative consequences of stupidity not being worthy of pity but it's quite another thing to think it should be punished.

Forgetting something or being distracted =/ stupidity.

Stop being a cunt and the OP should return the phone.

This is why the Black Plague needs to make a return.
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Old 12-07-2013, 05:04 AM
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Yous dumb.

Stupidity deserves to be punished, amiright? It's one thing to consider negative consequences of stupidity not being worthy of pity but it's quite another thing to think it should be punished.

Forgetting something or being distracted =/ stupidity.

Stop being a cunt and the OP should return the phone.

This is why the Black Plague needs to make a return.
Black plague exists all over the planet, don't sleep in any mountain caves if you want to avoid it!

To address what you said though, carelessness is just a form of stupidity. If someone isn't careful enough to keep track of their belongings, who's fault is that but their own? How can any decent person sit here and argue otherwise? You're essentially saying that people should be expected to look after people who ARE CAPABLE of taking care of themselves but choose not to.


This is why humanity is doomed! If we just let natural selection do its job for a few hundred years place wouldn't suck so much.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:13 AM
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Black plague exists all over the planet, don't sleep in any mountain caves if you want to avoid it!

To address what you said though, carelessness is just a form of stupidity. If someone isn't careful enough to keep track of their belongings, who's fault is that but their own? How can any decent person sit here and argue otherwise? You're essentially saying that people should be expected to look after people who ARE CAPABLE of taking care of themselves but choose not to.


This is why humanity is doomed! If we just let natural selection do its job for a few hundred years place wouldn't suck so much.
Your logic is flawed.

If the person who lost his/her found expected other people to find their phone for them, that might make your argument valid.
Someone taking someone that doesn't belong to them is something entirely different.
Where are you getting this "people should be expected to look after people who ARE CAPABLE of taking care of themselves but choose not to" from?
And the latter part in bold is a simplistic and incorrect take on human nature. There's a difference between rewarding stupidity and condemning people for it. Throwing the whole "survival of the fittest" (which is a misapplied concept anyway) thing into this doesn't make sense.

Yes it's the person's fault for leaving their phone. It's also the fault of the person taking who took the phone. Regardless of the carelessness of the person who left their phone the OP is still trash if he doesn't return the phone.
To reiterate: I'm not saying he's trash for not seeing the phone and making an effort to return it to the rightful owner. He's trash for taking something that doesn't belong to him and keeping it.

You're an idiot if you walk through a dark alley in a dangerous part of the city but that doesn't take away the responsibility of the person who ends up occupying your anal cavity.

I'd like to discuss this over a cup of coffee if you have Skype by the way.

The Black Plague exists everywhere. In fact it occupies 50% of my bloodstream. Damn negroidians.
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:08 AM
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Tasslehof is just angry that he could never afford an iphone so he is projecting his dreams of finding one in an airport bathroom.

Dude is serious IRL scum I wonder how much stuff he steals from his job.
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:34 PM
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If people took responsibility for themselves the world would be a fuckload better. But as we all know we are living in a welfare-mentality world where people can just get taken care of by others instead of doing it themselves.
No, what's making the world as fucked up as it is are the people who jump at the chance to fuck over another person when they simply make a stupid mistake.

Doing things like this doesn't "teach" anybody anything, except to hurt other people.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:12 AM
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Loving the mentality that some people are on welfare, so that gives you the right to steal everyone's shit.

Scumbag logic, yall.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:21 AM
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I was implying that every individual is responsible for themselves and that the world would be such a better place to live if everyone took care of themselves and their own shit using that example.

Do you think it is anyone elses responsibilty to keep track of your belongings? If you are careless and lose something of value to you which is subsequently found by someone else, in my opinion, that's your loss.

I don't understand how some people can disagree with this without admitting.that they are unable to take care of themselves and require a babysitter to hold their hand through life.

Man I tell you what, you guys should be grateful you were born in developed nations instead of places where you would have to fight for a living, food, a place to live, because with that kind of attitude you would starve to death before your neighbor would offer you a bread crumb. If you had any sense of responsibility or pride you would agree that every person is responsible for their own life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. If you don't care enough to take care of your own life and belongings, you don't deserve either.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:26 AM
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So if I don't steal other people's shit, I "require a babysitter to hold my hand through life"? No, fuck you.

Some people fuck up sometimes. I'm sure you have as well. That doesn't mean you have the right to take advantage of them. Fuck off with that shit.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:48 AM
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So if I don't steal other people's shit, I "require a babysitter to hold my hand through life"? No, fuck you.

Some people fuck up sometimes. I'm sure you have as well. That doesn't mean you have the right to take advantage of them. Fuck off with that shit.


That's not what I said really. I meant more so that if you're incapable of keeping track of your cellphone then you can't blame the thief who takes it. It was your responsibility to keep your belongings safe and no one elses, to try and blame others for your irresponsibility is a cowardly thing to do. Its a very ugly character flaw to expect others to live your life for you.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:54 AM
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That's not what I said really. I meant more so that if you're incapable of keeping track of your cellphone then you can't blame the thief who takes it. It was your responsibility to keep your belongings safe and no one elses, to try and blame others for your irresponsibility is a cowardly thing to do. Its a very ugly character flaw to expect others to live your life for you.
You know what else is cowardly and a very ugly character flaw? Condoning theft of property.
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