Bumamgar

[Toony]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Developers make changes to the servers, and as the Patch notes read on the front Page, Bumamgar Is a developer and seems to be one who makes changes (per front page patch notes), and also happens to be a leader of the "new raid guild".

seems like something is wrong with that...

PS, i am not trolling.. just an honest player wishing more people would play honestly.

Serious question, do you know the difference between a GM and a developer?

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Developers make changes to the servers, and as the Patch notes read on the front Page, Bumamgar Is a developer and seems to be one who makes changes (per front page patch notes), and also happens to be a leader of the "new raid guild".

seems like something is wrong with that...

PS, i am not trolling.. just an honest player wishing more people would play honestly.

Ignoring for a second your implication that someone isn't playing honestly....

I have access to the Project 1999 source code. This code is derived from the Project EQEMU source code that anyone can download from Google code. The p1999 source code is similar, but modified to implement classic features that are missing from the public EQEMU code base.

I do *not* have access to the Project 1999 database. The database contains the "data" that makes up project 1999 as a unique server. It houses character info, spawn info, timers, etc.

The code, without a database, is an empty world (in fact, for testing purposes, I use a public copy of the PEQ database when coding).

So yes, I can do things like adjust hybrid XP penalties, but I can't see when Naggy will spawn. I also have no GM powers in game, on any account. I cannot ban people, I cannot see the petition queue, I cannot do anything in-game any different than anyone else.

If you look through the patch notes, my contributions to this server have almost exclusively been to make things harder for everyone. Nerfing XP, reducing non-cleric heals by 10%, etc. These changes affect everyone, including me. They do not give myself or my guild any advantage over anyone else.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignoring for a second your implication that someone isn't playing honestly....

I have access to the Project 1999 source code. This code is derived from the Project EQEMU source code that anyone can download from Google code. The p1999 source code is similar, but modified to implement classic features that are missing from the public EQEMU code base.

I do *not* have access to the Project 1999 database. The database contains the "data" that makes up project 1999 as a unique server. It houses character info, spawn info, timers, etc.

The code, without a database, is an empty world (in fact, for testing purposes, I use a public copy of the PEQ database when coding).

So yes, I can do things like adjust hybrid XP penalties, but I can't see when Naggy will spawn. I also have no GM powers in game, on any account. I cannot ban people, I cannot see the petition queue, I cannot do anything in-game any different than anyone else.

If you look through the patch notes, my contributions to this server have almost exclusively been to make things harder for everyone. Nerfing XP, reducing non-cleric heals by 10%, etc. These changes affect everyone, including me. They do not give myself or my guild any advantage over anyone else.

Just to clarify, I think you're a fantastic dev and when i read patch notes with your name attached I actually appreciated them and thought they were great!

On the other hand, I think you've been a parasite to the raiding scene, which is unfortunate because many of your guild members are quite awesome people.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GM's don't make changes/fixes to the server. Nor is Bumamgar a GM for that matter.

I think I'm the only cross between development/GM'ing (and since I hate most of you, I'll probably be the only one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ). I've been trying to help Cyrius more here as of late.

I face planted when I saw the actual state of the Kunark quests and went and banned like 4 people. I felt better =(.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I face planted when I saw the actual state of the Kunark quests and went and banned like 4 people. I felt better =(.

You have to stop with these awesome quotes man! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I'm the only cross between development/GM'ing (and since I hate most of you, I'll probably be the only one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ). I've been trying to help Cyrius more here as of late.

I face planted when I saw the actual state of the Kunark quests and went and banned like 4 people. I felt better =(.

Well shit, thanks for blowing that seemingly safe assumption [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Eh hey, you dont also lead a high end raiding guild here do ya?

/rhetorical

[Atern]

You know, the really funny part about this is that when Ektar called "role call" in shout, he was staring at about 18 WI members who just ran off the ledge over to the other side of the lava to start buffs. WE WERE OBVIOUSLY AFK BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING AND BUFFING!!! And of course the first responses to it were various camp checks, because we were going over buffs and groups in guild chat. So sorry it took us 70 seconds to answer the roll call! Maybe we can get audio macros to go off when certain phrases appear in shout so i know to look at that chat window?

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well shit, thanks for blowing that seemingly safe assumption [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Eh hey, you dont also lead a high end raiding guild here do ya?

/rhetorical

This only recently (since Nil's leash post). Like within 2 weeks I guess? No official announcement, I've always kinda done both, but I generally tended to not get involved unless no one else was around. I'm not very tolerant or forgiving.

Negative, I got to play like twice since release. If I had a guild, and if I ran it, we'd be raiding rats in FP.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I'm the only cross between development/GM'ing

*clears throat*. hmmm?

Also, to clarify to everyone so theres no misunderstandings since I saw it starting to get mentioned; the only people with access to the full live server database are nilbog and myself. This is the database that holds everything, both content, player, and server status. The database that the developers have access to and work on is the test server database, which only receives snapshots of the live database maybe once every few months. This database runs independantly of spawn timers and any other information from the live server's operations.

There's also different levels of status, or lack of, on the live server. Guides, GM's, Admins, etc. A developer typically doesn't have GM Access to the live server, especially if they have a play character (Bumamgar). They *may*, if they chose to, have Guide access, as any person who fills the position of guide is someone who plays on the server; however there are no developers that currently do this.

[girth]

Is someone suggesting IB 'gave' WI 30 minutes with Nagafen, although they had every right not to?

Pretty much...if you assume we had proof that they failed the role call, which they did.
I'm happy though for some of my buddies in WI for getting their first kill, but Bumamgar is really showing his true colors. Also heard he planned to ignore the 30 minute timer if it came to that, but that's just hearsay. I believe it though after reading this thread.