PvP Level Range on R99

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

North Nihilum Jibeknn Red Dawn this guy is level 52
North Nihilum Bleargh Superadults level 52
North Nihilum Blackbart Red Dawn level 52
North Nihilum Homeless Red Dawn level 53
Ganka Nihilum Doinstuff Flowers of Happiness level 52 necro
Tune Nihilum Punkin Flowers of Happiness 52 or 53 druid?
Tune Nihilum Chanter Red Dawn level 53 or 54 enchanter?

p.s. this is just from the first page of leaderboard

Just because I am against it does not mean I can get people to stop it.

This is a pvp server after all...

[rusty81]

+1 to +4/-4

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would be absolutely hurting your guild by switching from a 60 Rogue to a 52 cleric in 99.99999999% of situations. Mass PVP is about #'s/DPS/Assisting.

Depends.. if 30 lvl 60s are facing 30 level 60s... One level 55 cleric could easily be worth 4-5 extra players.

OOR healing is just too dangerous to allow.

But the good news is we can stop it and still change the level range.

[heartbrand]

If people want to argue about Seb or what not and keeping it FFA, w/e I don't think it makes a huge dif, as most people in seb are 56+ anyway. But making sol b and perma FFA on account of naggy/vox who are left up for stretches at a time is retarded, especially since naggy and vox are 52 and under restricted, meaning level 60's can walk in and rape someones naggy attempt with impunity. Can we at least agree Sol B / Perma have no business being FFA?

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends.. if 30 lvl 60s are facing 30 level 60s... One level 55 cleric could easily be worth 4-5 extra players.

OOR healing is just too dangerous to allow.

But the good news is we can stop it and still change the level range.

There have been like 14-18 mass pvp battles on this server since it's inception 2 years ago. Regulating for something that rare, while screwing everyone else in the interim seems ridiculous. But again, can we all agree due to the unique level restriction of naggy/vox that those zones have no business being ffa pvp?

[big mouth chew]

why is there no option for +/-16 levels
fuck this poll

[Rust1d?]

I like +/-4 unless it is a raid zone. Would not need FFA in raid zones if people just played the game but everyone has to cheat and bring in OOR healers etc.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There have been like 14-18 mass pvp battles on this server since it's inception 2 years ago. Regulating for something that rare, while screwing everyone else in the interim seems ridiculous. But again, can we all agree due to the unique level restriction of naggy/vox that those zones have no business being ffa pvp?

I am not against Vox/Nagafen not being on the FFA when spawned list.

If the planes remain FFA that would leave Trak/VS/Sev/Fay/Gore(maybe)/Tal.

[heartbrand]

Outdoor dragons allow too much griefing potential, and with Velious, would result in literally almost every zone becoming FFA.

If we apply your boss mob criteria, the following zones would be FFA, excluding sol b / perma:

Karnor's (VS)
Dreadlands (Gore)
EJ (Sev)
Skyfire (Talendor)
VP
Seb (Trak)
TD (LOL FFA RANGE TD FAY)
I could make an argument for Chardok due to royals as well

In Velious the following zones:

Iceclad (Lodi)
Cobalt Scar (Kelorek'Dar)
Wakening Lands (Wuoshi)
Western Wastes (Klandi/Sontalak)
Icewell Keep (Dain)
Skyshrine (Yelinak)
Kael (Tormax / Vindi / AoW)
DN (Zlandicar)
ST
ToV
Velektor

That's the majority of Velious zones being no level range.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outdoor dragons allow too much griefing potential, and with Velious, would result in literally almost every zone becoming FFA.

If we apply your boss mob criteria, the following zones would be FFA, excluding sol b / perma:

Karnor's (VS)
Dreadlands (Gore)
EJ (Sev)
Skyfire (Talendor)
VP
Seb (Trak)
TD (LOL FFA RANGE TD FAY)
I could make an argument for Chardok due to royals as well

In Velious the following zones:

Iceclad (Lodi)
Cobalt Scar (Kelorek'Dar)
Wakening Lands (Wuoshi)
Western Wastes (Klandi/Sontalak)
Icewell Keep (Dain)
Skyshrine (Yelinak)
Kael (Tormax / Vindi / AoW)
DN (Zlandicar)
ST
ToV
Velektor

That's the majority of Velious zones being no level range.

I could see Velious being the problem. Lodi and Kelorek'Dar are not real bosses and so would not be a need for them to be flagged.

However I think this should be a two step process.

Step one - Implement 4 level range pvp with the above mentioned zones turning into FFA when the raid target it spawned. (This mobs will die within 24 hours)

Step two - before velious comes out the new flagging system must be implemented and the entire zone flag would be removed.

If you cannot do these two steps it is best to just leave it as is.