So who wants to see the potential teams?

[SamwiseRed]

thats true, i remember having trouble with rental cars before , not hotels tho.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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see, you had to go take something fun, and then ruin it.

again, fair doesn't mean balanced. we are accounting for all kinds of factors, not just "uh oh hey guys, every team MUST have have every class! doesn't matter if things dont make sense, doesn't matter that one team will out number any other team"

as far as training, it won't be allowed, i can assure you of that regardless of which way the teams server goes. we are trying to create a more community friendly PvP server, if anything, id say its safer to expect more of a PNP, as opposed to less.

<3 u

[Lowlife]

pras sirken

nihilum having nervous breakdown over possible loss of classes, i love it

[SamwiseRed]

i just dont see it without hiring a mass amount of gms. i am not trolling, i am being realistic.

like making marijuana illegal lol, good luck enforcing that one.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i just dont see it without hiring a mass amount of gms. i am not trolling, i am being realistic.

like making marijuana illegal lol, good luck enforcing that one.

heres what you do, make training a perma ban for first offense. problem solved.

[SamwiseRed]

do it please

[heartbrand]

The only way to ever make PVP servers work with their naturally lower pop is to enable boxing. Until that's done [although one can argue it's already been done since people blatantly box all around me] there will always be one large guild that dominates the other guilds since you need lots of bodies to throw @ things to accomplish things, particularly of classes most people don't want to play like clerics. You'll need double digit clerics for most things in Velious for CH chains, but guilds can't even get 3 clerics online at times. Where will these people come from? Inb4 boxing is evil it isn't up for discussion blah blah.

[Vexenu]

No training is probably for the best at this point. As long as it is enforced uniformly across the board with no favorites being played, i.e. one guild getting slaps on the wrist while another gets perma-banned.

PNP also good as long as there are ways to settle disputes with PvP, even between members of the same team.

Sirken, how would you feel about GM-forced guild wars between guilds on the same faction who couldn't abide by the PNP?

[Rec]

If there was no training and perm ban on first offense, the first month of Crushbone would take out 75% of the player base

[heartbrand]

Like, I'm trying to build Red Dawn, but think about it. I'll need a MINIMUM of 7-8 clerics just to do Vindi. And I'm trying to recruit on a server that MAXES out @ 190 players, 50 of them in Nihilum. How am I supposed to ever get that many clerics on top of all the other classes online? It's just not feasible without boxing. Now I could just box like some other people do, but I don't feel like risking peoples chars [although I never really seen people with a brain banned for boxing], and I don't want to break the rules. Shrug, it just doesn't make sense to me. If there was boxing, you could accomplish things with smaller numbers, so you wouldn't have to join the largest guild to progress your character, there would be multiple mid size crews rolling around, tons of pvp and competition, and tons of fun.