Rangers, decent tanks?

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We *know* that there is a good 90% chance the person behind the toon is an EQ vet who's going to be a valuable member of the party.

Lol, have you grouped on P99 lately?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, have you grouped on P99 lately?

well, necro/druid or necro/mage or necro/necro..

I didnt group melees on the cleric, lord knows i wouldn't start now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your point is indeed valid.

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People just like to jump on the bandwagon and say things like ranger gate and crap like that. Truth be told a decent geared ranger is a great tank, I tanked 98% of the time in all the groups I was in from 1-50. Truth be told yes once at 50 and doing things more like FG's and things that hit over 140 a sk/pal/war are the better choices for a true tank. Anyone I leveled my ranger up with I'm sure would vouch for how good a ranger tank can be for leveling.

Yes, in Kunark I don’t plan to tank much if at all, but I can easily enough off tank to CC things with root, and yes things like root make us awesome to level up with. Ranger’s dps is also a lot better than most people think.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 50 Ranger DA

I was waiting for Gretzky to post.

This guy is a fucking monster, my favorite tank 1-50

[truzek]

Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by truzek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Sir, speaking as a ranger, I ask you the same question.

If you're a min-maxer (the server is full of them), then no, a ranger isn't ever going to tank good enough for you. Can a ranger hold aggro right alongside a SK and take hits if they have to? Yes. Will it tax the healers mana more? Yes. Are they efficient tanks compared to plate classes? No. If you can't find a War/SK/Pally will a ranger or bard do in a pinch? Yes.

[tj218]

As a Rogue I enjoy duo'ing with a ranger friend. He can tank, which allows me to backstab and then he can heal as well. Probably not the most efficient duo'ing but not bad.

[Itchybottom]

A ranger without weaponshield disc (2003 I think?) is going to die tanking anything but classic encounters. For typical camp the item pickup groups, it's a non-issue. A ranger can tank just fine in that situation. But you're never going to put a ranger in this era, up against Innoruuk as your primary tank; it's probably trivial for Terror/Fright/Dread/Dracolich though. I highly doubt you'll see rangers in Kunark tanking Overking Bathesid or Venril Sathir until they've maximum geared the content. I remember rangers on live soloing some mean crap when trueshot disc went in, but I never really saw a ranger pre-Luclin be able to tank anything that hit hard enough to require a dedicated tank (VT gear changed things a little, probably to mitigate how hard Luclin mobs hit)

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sir, speaking as a ranger, I ask you the same question.

If you're a min-maxer (the server is full of them), then no, a ranger isn't ever going to tank good enough for you. Can a ranger hold aggro right alongside a SK and take hits if they have to? Yes. Will it tax the healers mana more? Yes. Are they efficient tanks compared to plate classes? No. If you can't find a War/SK/Pally will a ranger or bard do in a pinch? Yes.

Had a fine group tonight on an alt, lasted for hours. At one point we had a monk tank. At another we had a bard tank. If Rangers had been available for tanking when we were looking, they would have done just fine. Only death I saw in several hours was a bard that would have lived had the secondary heals gotten to him fast enough.

Can Rangers tank? Sure they can.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by truzek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Ask any of the people I have grouped with on my Bard. Kobolds are quite easy to tank in Solb and the lower level range of Lguk is eaquily easy.

As far as plate versus chain goes, I'm fairly certain any twinked out ranger on this server has higher AC than my bard currently as I have not bothered farming / buying gear for that character. Also, as somebody else mentioned the AC difference between plate and chain in classic is not much at all.

Anyway, I am speaking from experience as a bard and I'm willing to bet that rangers do just fine in the areas I previously mentioned.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by truzek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you people are out of your fucking minds if you think rangers or even bards can be efficient tanks. Have you ever played a ranger? They drop like flys even at very low levels, its pathetic. Warriors, paladins and SKs have alot more hp and much better damage mitigation skills.

Go back to playing your warrior/sk/paladin, numnutz.

I konw that your feel incredibly jealous.