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Old 10-10-2013, 11:41 AM
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By far the most angst has been from blue folks who think I should be forced to work on Velious rather than helping tweak PvP.
It's because we're communists (or utilitarians).

Also I suspect implementing repops would be one of the best things you could do for PVP. The problem right now (on both servers) is that the dominant guild gets 95%, and no one else gets anything. This creates a huge barrier to entry, because it's real hard to keep logging in for 3+ months when you never actually get the pixels. With repops, the Resistance (Azrael on Red, everyone not TMO on Blue) can at least win enough encounters to keep people interested with the promise of more. In other words, repops promote actual competition.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:43 AM
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Helped Senor Voidd for a while on VZTZ, I know what the community thinks of developers. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But really so far it hasnt been bad. I think the only vitrol that's come my way was Mingo and Regis (not Elderan!) telling me I'm retarded.

By far the most angst has been from blue folks who think I should be forced to work on Velious rather than helping tweak PvP.
You have already done more for this server then anyone has. You have my support and I am thankful for what you have done.

I am positive toward the future of red99 and with some minor tweakage of resists I think this server could be an even playing field and a very fun pvp experience.

I do not support the new server, just finishing this one THEN WIPING IT

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Old 10-10-2013, 11:47 AM
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It's because we're communists (or utilitarians).

Also I suspect implementing repops would be one of the best things you could do for PVP. The problem right now (on both servers) is that the dominant guild gets 95%, and no one else gets anything. This creates a huge barrier to entry, because it's real hard to keep logging in for 3+ months when you never actually get the pixels. With repops, the Resistance (Azrael on Red, everyone not TMO on Blue) can at least win enough encounters to keep people interested with the promise of more. In other words, repops promote actual competition.
Velious will also solve this issue.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:12 PM
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It's because we're communists (or utilitarians).

Also I suspect implementing repops would be one of the best things you could do for PVP. The problem right now (on both servers) is that the dominant guild gets 95%, and no one else gets anything. This creates a huge barrier to entry, because it's real hard to keep logging in for 3+ months when you never actually get the pixels. With repops, the Resistance (Azrael on Red, everyone not TMO on Blue) can at least win enough encounters to keep people interested with the promise of more. In other words, repops promote actual competition.
This is something outside of Alecta's control. He is simply PvP dev. Others on red have already brought up mechanics that hinder their pvp on Red but it would also effect PvE so he can't touch it (Andis commenting about rogue hide/sneak sucking, not allowing him to ambush groups with rogue in dungeons).

Alecta also comes from a background of PvP and that is his interest. If people are upset about Alecta devoting his time to PvP they have the wrong attitude towards it. Having Alecta doesn't subtract from Blue, it is simply an addition to Red. If you want someone to work on Blue you either need to talk with current developers or find someone to join the team.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:26 PM
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people are upset about Alecta devoting his time to PvP they have the wrong attitude towards it. Having Alecta doesn't subtract from Blue, it is simply an addition to Red.
This was not my point at all. My point was that PVE fixes on red might be more effective in terms of making the server enjoyable than PVP fixes. Alecta will of course work on whatever he enjoys, which is how it should always be with any volunteer project.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:33 PM
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yeah you think spawning innoruuk 2 times per week is going to make the red server more enjoyable than taking 1000 damage from sunstrike at 200 fire resist and getting highsun raped by a bard as a caster

u dum as fuk bluebie
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:43 PM
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Get out of here blue role player

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Old 10-10-2013, 01:08 PM
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yeah you think spawning innoruuk 2 times per week is going to make the red server more enjoyable than taking 1000 damage from sunstrike at 200 fire resist and getting highsun raped by a bard as a caster

u dum as fuk bluebie
I seem to remember a great deal of bitching about how Azrael was killing Trakanon and then a server reset came and moved his spawn time back to US prime time. Threads demanding variance and such.

I guess every now and then I forget that the real problem with red is the community. Ah well, thanks for reminding me. I'm out, you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:20 PM
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I seem to remember a great deal of bitching about how Azrael was killing Trakanon and then a server reset came and moved his spawn time back to US prime time. Threads demanding variance and such.

I guess every now and then I forget that the real problem with red is the community. Ah well, thanks for reminding me. I'm out, you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
Alecta doesn't have the jurisdiction to make PvE rules. This is reserved to Nilbog/Rogean or whoever else. It took the dev team a long time to hand over some power to someone just to make PvP changes. All changes Alecta is making should pertain to PvP alone.

Before Alecta it was only Nilbog/Rogean that would make PvP decisions. Everyone thinking they take time away from Velious for Red don't know enough about the two servers. It took Red 2 years to get those changes Alecta did in a few weeks time. It took Nilbog/Rogean 18 months just to add in yellow text for pvp kills, which probably took a half hour of work.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:21 PM
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I seem to remember a great deal of bitching about how Azrael was killing Trakanon and then a server reset came and moved his spawn time back to US prime time. Threads demanding variance and such.

I guess every now and then I forget that the real problem with red is the community. Ah well, thanks for reminding me. I'm out, you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
so two people call you a faggot from red must = red community all assholes etc etc


ok


you may now return to your regularly scheduled bluebieness



srsly fuk off blub
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