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Old 09-29-2013, 01:24 AM
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why no hammers? swords don't do shit to plate.
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:54 AM
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why no hammers? swords don't do shit to plate.
I wondered that same thing. It's probably because swords don't do shit to plate.
They're mimicking tournament melees where knights wore full suits of plate and used giant swords to subdue their opponents and win their armor, horses and maybe even a ransom. You actually didn't want to damage their armor too much, so large swords were fine.

By the time that heavy full plate was in use, battle swords were designed for thrusting, with thick diamond-shaped cross sections that reinforced the point and limited the cutting edges. The most popular battlefield weapons of the days of full articulated plate were pikes and primitive firearms, often used together in formation. It wasn't armies of knights in full plate armor hacking away at each other with swords. Warhammers and axes were also used. I do believe in some parts of Germany and northern Europe there were gigantic two-handed swords used against armored opponents.
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:02 AM
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why no hammers? swords don't do shit to plate.
Blunt weapons aren't really allowed unless its a special case. A well placed hammer will break your ribs and crush in that plate so you can't breathe.


I asked my self the same thing so I looked it up.
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:11 AM
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Apparently you don't realize how much strength and stamina you have to have to wear full suits of plate armor while you try to beat your opponent down and protect your self.
Not sure how much SCA or Markland fighting you've seen, but aside from the very minor amount of fit folks who actually move around, it's a bunch of 300 pound "knights" standing in a line hoping to get a shot in
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:14 AM
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:43 AM
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Blunt weapons aren't really allowed unless its a special case. A well placed hammer will break your ribs and crush in that plate so you can't breathe.


I asked my self the same thing so I looked it up.
Yeah there's no way they'd be able to use the true historical weapons because they'd be effective (IE dangerous and possibly deadly). That's why I said above that it's probably because they don't do shit vs plate that they're using them. If they were swinging maces and warhammers at each other it would quickly turn dangerous and maybe deadly and would actually become Chivalry: Medieval Warfare.

These guys are still badass though and I'd love to try it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 03:09 AM
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Yeah there's no way they'd be able to use the true historical weapons because they'd be effective (IE dangerous and possibly deadly). That's why I said above that it's probably because they don't do shit vs plate that they're using them. If they were swinging maces and warhammers at each other it would quickly turn dangerous and maybe deadly and would actually become Chivalry: Medieval Warfare.

These guys are still badass though and I'd love to try it.
I wonder if any Americans have started doing events like these.
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:46 AM
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My guess is no. It would probably cost a fortune in insurance and might be downright illegal regardless. Full Metal Jousting is the closest I've seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5tsGQ9KLQ but like I said some of those guys were getting hurt bad. I don't think the show was renewed, but I'd love to see new seaons. The jousting on that show brutal, nothing like Medieval times or renaissance faire jousting.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:48 AM
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I wonder if any Americans have started doing events like these.
Actually they have, but I don't know where. There is a world tournament called Battle of Nations and I believe the US participated last year. I just don't know where the US team is from.

Edit: here you go http://usaknights.org
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:42 PM
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Actually they have, but I don't know where. There is a world tournament called Battle of Nations and I believe the US participated last year. I just don't know where the US team is from.

Edit: here you go http://usaknights.org
This is a yearly event and the US did send a team. They got raped lol.
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