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Old 09-03-2013, 12:07 PM
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How is it getting "ripped off" if you pay the price someone asks? Isn't that what the item is worth (at least) to you? If you think the price is too high, just don't buy it.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:37 PM
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How is it getting "ripped off" if you pay the price someone asks? Isn't that what the item is worth (at least) to you? If you think the price is too high, just don't buy it.
And just how do you know the price is too high if you don't have a clue what the price is. Not everyone has been on here for 4 years. Your funny. Not everyone sits in EC Tunnel 12 hours a day.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:55 PM
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And just how do you know the price is too high if you don't have a clue what the price is. Not everyone has been on here for 4 years. Your funny. Not everyone sits in EC Tunnel 12 hours a day.
How is the price high, if that is the price someone is willing to pay? Wouldn't that be the correct price?
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:31 PM
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webrunner5=communist.

this is murica...capitalism...free markets...like ele said...if u don't like the price, then don't buy it...eventually the seller will lower his price cause he wants to get rid of it...

prices will always find equilibrium. Otherwise we all should sell shit to vendors and let the vendors sell back to people...but let the GMs decide the flat prices for everything.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:36 PM
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I fail to see how knowing the "going rate" on an item equates to communism (or socialism - the correct term). The only real issue I have with the tracker is that it is based on public bids and not real buy/sell data. But it uses the best info you can really attain... Dow Jones posts up to the minute going rate of stocks... you think that's not capitalism?
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:37 PM
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Prices do find equilibrium, with and without the tracker. That has nothing to do with this. The tracker doesn't set prices. Players do. The tracker just tracks them. That's it. You can get the same info that's on the tracker by sitting in EC and tracking it yourself. But not everyone wants to do that, and there's no good reason NOT to have a tracker.....Unless you are trying to rip people off.

I'm sorry, but it's just complete BS to actively want to take advantage of people who don't sit in EC all day every day by depriving them of info that can easily be tracked and has been.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:42 PM
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Prices do find equilibrium, with and without the tracker. That has nothing to do with this. The tracker doesn't set prices. Players do. The tracker just tracks them. That's it. You can get the same info that's on the tracker by sitting in EC and tracking it yourself. But not everyone wants to do that, and there's no good reason NOT to have a tracker.....Unless you are trying to rip people off.

I'm sorry, but it's just complete BS to actively want to take advantage of people who don't sit in EC all day every day by depriving them of info that can easily be tracked and has been.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:43 PM
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The 'recent changes' log in the P99 Wiki has the following entries by Ravhin:


(diff | hist) . . m Main Page‎; 10:40 . . (-43)‎ . . ‎Ravhin (Talk | contribs)‎ (disable auctiontracker temporarily)
(diff | hist) . . m Template:Itempage‎; 10:39 . . (-41)‎ . . ‎Ravhin (Talk | contribs)‎ (remove auctiontracker from items temporarily)

Key word: temporarily.
And this should be /endthread.

Off the topic, anyone that wants the feature gone, should probably rethink the definition of a wiki.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:47 PM
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The price tracker clearly provides a useful and neutral service for players who don't want to get ripped off, as well as unprofessional sellers who want to know what they should ask for their items. By unprofessional I mean those players who like to actually spend time out in the world adventuring.

The backwoods economic arguments being put forth here are stupid. There's not a modern market in the world that doesn't track and publish sale prices.

The P1999 economy is peculiar for those coming from Live and esp for those who haven't played since the classic era (like me). I played on Tarrew Marr in the early days, so I might readily have paid a hefty sum for a sacrificial dagger or a SSoY. Those items aren't very valuable any more, and I'm glad the limited plat I spent 20+ hours farming at sisters wasn't scammed out of my pockets. Thanks auction tracker!
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:51 PM
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How is it getting "ripped off" if you pay the price someone asks? Isn't that what the item is worth (at least) to you? If you think the price is too high, just don't buy it.
This. No one is forcing you to pay what people want for a item. If you want a item and are willing to pay 15k for it your gonna pay that no matter what the wiki says. The wiki should help keep track of what people charge not be used for people to set the prices. There is a difference.
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