what punishments would you like to see for those caught red handed?

[Faerie]

RMT: Permanent account/ip ban
2boxing: Permanent account ban on all involved accounts
MQ or whatever, third party software: Permanent account/ip ban
Training: 6 month ban each time, 3rd time permanent account/ip
Account trading/selling/buying (even for in-game items): Permanent account and ip bans for all involved parties
KSing: 6 months

Raiding guilds should also be banned from raiding for 2 weeks every time one of their members is banned. I have no sympathy for cheaters.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RMT: Permanent account/ip ban
2boxing: Permanent account ban on all involved accounts
MQ or whatever, third party software: Permanent account/ip ban
Training: 6 month ban each time, 3rd time permanent account/ip
Account trading/selling/buying (even for in-game items): Permanent account and ip bans for all involved parties
KSing: 6 months

Raiding guilds should also be banned from raiding for 2 weeks every time one of their members is banned. I have no sympathy for cheaters.

Well I'm glad that I'm not the only one who cares about the servers integrity. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Grahm]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RMT - permanent IP ban.
2boxing - perma account ban, no exceptions.
Exploit/3rd party prog - perma IP ban.


Minor offenses:
Training - if you are petitioned/caught training repeatedly imo you should get a suspension for over 6 months. Especially of numerous people witnessed said train and encounter logs support their claims.

Kill stealing - if you're engaged on a mob and someone comes along and steals your kill/loot, they should be suspended atleast 1 month.

Raid interference - guild raid suspension for 1 week, 2nd offense 2 weeks, 3rd 1 month raiding suspension.


I understand some of these policies are already in place but there are hundreds pf accounts unbanned regularly. Why have rules if people who dont follow them arent punished accordingly. Including folks who were known to be involved with RMT. I would like to see what you all think. I believe if we could eliminate douschebaggery atleast a little bit the server would ve a lot better for everyone.


I spent 8 hours last week dodging trains in solb from random players, mostly BDA trying to kill me and take my tranix camp. Multiple petitions were entered from my groupmates but all were ignored.
After this incident I went to KC where I was intentionally trained by jeremy, by his own admission. So I zone and come back in time to tag a named that had made its way to the entrance following jeremys train. Jeremy zones back in to ks me and ninjaloot my named after he killed my duo partner with his train, among about 5 other people. Experiences like this make me wonder if there is any enforcement of rules regarding training and killstealing.

I mean there has to be logs showing me engaging said named and jeremy kill stealing right? So why is there no justice for the 3 to 4 ppl who were killed by Jeremy's antics? My point is if rules were enforced in these situations where there are many witnesses and encounter logs to prove it, there would be a lot less assholes running around breaking rules.


What do you guys think? Should the rules be more or less harsh regarding rule breakers?

And do you guys think its possible to come up with a way for the gms to enforce the rules better?


No ones time is more valuable than anothers when we are logged onto p99, so why should people who feel this way continue to be allowed to ruin other's experiences on p99 with their douschrbaggery/rule breaking and in extreme cases: why are accounts of 2 boxers/rmters/cheaters ever unbanned? That just says to other cheaters there are no repercussion for them cheating.


I say keep banned accounts permabanned.

Unless 100% fraps evidence of a person intentionally training you, all other shit is useless. Strip naked and level to level 1 is the worst thing that could happen. Even if/when they get PL'd back to 60 in a week, you still know who it is and why they did it. RMT, malicious raid training and 2boxing (real two boxing, not logging on to a druid to port yourself once every year) should deserve this. Anything else should be a /tell from a GM to knock that shit off, and if they ignore the warning, they get the same punishment.

[Tasslehofp99]

I think in situations like the one I mentioned in OP where there were multiple people affected and witness to the offense AND where encounter logs can be used to prove it...there's no reason for action bot to be taken.

You train someone and kill them/their group intentionally, you're wasting peoples time. Everquest is a time consuming game and if people are continuously allowed to waste others time with impunity then that affects server health in a detrimental way.

Sure maybe IP bans aren't effective but for extreme offenses account bans should be applied as well.


In regards to raid interference and raiding rules being broken: FE was asked by a GM to sit out a trak spawn because at the spawn prior a very retarded ex-fe member blatantly trained TMO while they engaged trak. Which in my opinion is 100% just and fair. The problem is that I have fraps of TMO training many times (mostly by tortue when its intentional) and never once to my knowledge have they been asked to sit out a spawn (atleast while FE was a guild) like we were on thay particular occasion. If you have rules in place they must be fairly enforced across the board in my opinion.


I think that maybe what needs to happen is the community themselves needs to step up and police the server a bit in order to atleast attempt getting rid of all the dirtbags who waste peoples time with their stupidity.

[quido]

Sirken's just gonna doctor the logs to debunk your claims as it is, right Tasslehof?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken's just gonna doctor the logs to debunk your claims as it is, right Tasslehof?

Trying to keep this out of rnf territory so going to keep disregarding your posts until you add something useful to the thread.


But if I remember correctly you were the one claiming sirken doctored logs, I just asked you to clarify why you and merkk's engage times were exactly the same but 3 people whose engage times were later were placed ahead of merkk in the encounter logs...apparently that seemed like trollbait to you though.

[mwatt]

Damn, I thought this was gonna be a post about what punishment befitted the DDOSer. I would have replied, nothing short of "Federal pound me in the ass prison".

[Mattius]

yeah the kill stealing part is pretty sad IMO, but boxing and softwares should be perm IP.

[Midgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah the kill stealing part is pretty sad IMO, but boxing and softwares should be perm IP.

KS'ing it all a part of being the dominant fighter. if someone in real life were to stomp on your pet (say a dog or cat)
if they weren't able to stomp on you aswell, they would haven ever stomped on your dog. see what im saying?

[Swish]

Based on this thread the LoL community is friendlier... there, I said it.