A serious post about duping

[Loly Taa]

Might I suggest you get your shit together?

I really think you have no idea what you;re talking about.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very mature response.

A lot more mature than how you behave on these forums on a daily basis, slandering the project and it's staff.

[Sgt1stClassPerkerwood]

I was in EC the other day on my 60 chanter.. selling shit, buying stuffery. For whatever reason decided to buy a batfang headband for a hell of a deal - 75 plat.

I went to do the transaction and the server was spiking hard. I was furiously clicking with my 75 plat to open the trade window and it would, but then open up showing i put 0 plat, so hit cancel. Then he would open up trade window like he had put an item in there but it was blank. Finally after a few minutes I completed the transaction and went on my way. I logged off about an hour and a half later.

Logged on the next day and had the extra 75 plat sitting on my cursor and the item in my inventory, and the guy said he too had the 75 plat in is inventory and the batfang headband on his cursor.

So.. it can happen. Imagine if i was boxing and just trading an AON and 500k between each other and happen to dupe that. Fungi, Donals BP, pick your poison. I hope we are monitoring high value trades between the same characters or something of that nature.

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Sgt1stClassPerkerwood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in EC the other day on my 60 chanter.. selling shit, buying stuffery. For whatever reason decided to buy a batfang headband for a hell of a deal - 75 plat.

I went to do the transaction and the server was spiking hard. I was furiously clicking with my 75 plat to open the trade window and it would, but then open up showing i put 0 plat, so hit cancel. Then he would open up trade window like he had put an item in there but it was blank. Finally after a few minutes I completed the transaction and went on my way. I logged off about an hour and a half later.

Logged on the next day and had the extra 75 plat sitting on my cursor and the item in my inventory, and the guy said he too had the 75 plat in is inventory and the batfang headband on his cursor.

So.. it can happen. Imagine if i was boxing and just trading an AON and 500k between each other and happen to dupe that. Fungi, Donals BP, pick your poison. I hope we are monitoring high value trades between the same characters or something of that nature.

This is the best post of the thread, honestly- thank you for posting it. It could really explain this whole thing.

Player trades in zones when you lag the worldserver could really easily dupe items now that you mention it. Player profiles are saved on the worldserver I beleve, so this could very well be the cause of all of this.

[fastboy21]

I hate to say it, because there are too many folks wearing tin foil hats around here already...

but, it does seem a little too much of a coincidence that this last wave of "ddos lag" started when ephi shut down platlord in the last round of bans. if platlord is recuperating his stock and this is his method of doing so, then the recent "ddos lag" seems to make a lot of sense.

[citizen1080]

You would think there would be a "created" date on items, if they can track the item id from person to person the ID had to start somewhere. I cant see it being too hard to look and see if 8 AoNs have been created in the last 3 weeks etc.

However, this might not be the case, not really sure what information the devs have available to them.

[Furinex]

Unless these items are tracked client side to a point. Much like how it remembers the server you play on or even which char was seleceted last. I've been discussing this with a buddy since this started. It makes perfect sense.

[koros]

Following what Bob said, and I'm not DBA, but...

Is it not possible to either add a created date for any item in a characters possession, or alternately create a difference log?

I'm certain the developers can run something analogous to "Select * from Characters where Items_in_inventory like (id of AoN or misc items here)" and compare it to the previous day, etc. This could be automated, until true functionality to stop duping could be added in.

Or hell, generate a GUID and assign one to every item every dropped, although maybe this is too resource intensive.

[pasi]

I really doubt it is only CRoAs and AoNs being duped at this point. I feel bad for whoever is attempting to sort this out.

[Nirgon]

I was told that there was an item dupe that makes the server unstable

Given things I'm told recently, it is really hard to sort the bull shit from what's real :P