The Bard class needs work

[Swyft]

Everyone who actually played live in 1999 knows everything I stated was 100% True. I could provide proof that it worked exactly as I stated but WHY? lil fanboys don't want proof they want to flame and use personal attacks instead of logic or reason.

Everyone knows t-staff, skean, highsun and resists need to be changed that they bare no resemblance to classic, but the wow kids are having it there way like there at BK.

P.S. Bard's were considered a joke pre Planes of Power when they got chant of poison and disease pre chant of poison and disease all bards did was train here they can't even train because number 1 it's illegal and number 2 your cant charm with the spell in it's current state it breaks far to fast.

IDC I've dropped the bard class I know pillars wont get fixed and this class is utterly worthless.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Num1RecommendedByDentists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing wrong with removing every single buff on any class instantly

agree there

Do you genuinely agree? Golem wands are something everyone can use. Requires time investment camping. And AFAIK they are not rechargeable anymore. So requires more time investment again. They are no more OP than Soulfire. People without golem wands can still use pumice.

Plus you can PvP dominate the camp if your are so worried about them.

Tstaff is a permanent douchey item. And only drops for a limited number of people. Monks without it are 2cnd rate citizens and have no way to equalize themselves except trade for one.

Highsun by itself is not going to make a bard win 1v1 every single time. And you have to reach 52 to get it. Doesn't work everywhere and the enemy can counter it with their own abilities. It screws warriors and other melee but casters can gate if they don't feel like they can take a bard without buffs. *** I can understand the reason why it might need to be nerfed as a class feature for the good of the box. Since it is a free ability and coupled with bards other free abilities can lead to lamer fights. But both teams should be having a bard around for those big battles that matter. It just simplifies things into kill the healers, bard, nukers, then go for melee. Which is about where its at anyway regardless of the importance of 'highsun'.

EQ is not about balanced PvP anyway. All good encounters are group pvp. Nizzar died to group pvp in KC with me in group and the o'le eurotrash supporting <Red Dawn> nothing I know is imbalanced enough to make anyone a god when you have more then 4 people. Nizzar ganks people with trak teeth and tstaff, but he does that 1 vs 1 when people are separated. Nizzar ain't the shit, and other people have fucking tstaffs on the server.

You should consider it an honor if someone spends a charged item like trak teeth or golem wand on you to gank you. It means they don't think they can kill you any other way and must use cheap tactics.

P.S. I think Nizzar is a great guy. Don't take me using you as an example personally please =)

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Highsun by itself is not going to make a bard win 1v1 every single time. And you have to reach 52 to get it. Doesn't work everywhere and the enemy can counter it with their own abilities. It screws warriors and other melee but casters can gate if they don't feel like they can take a bard without buffs. *** I can understand the reason why it might need to be nerfed as a class feature for the good of the box. Since it is a free ability and coupled with bards other free abilities can lead to lamer fights. But both teams should be having a bard around for those big battles that matter. It just simplifies things into kill the healers, bard, nukers, then go for melee. Which is about where its at anyway regardless of the importance of 'highsun'.

has anyone in this thread actually fought a bard with highsun? you realize it stuns you every 3 seconds so u aren't casting anything and especially not gate if they feel like locking you down completely

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

has anyone in this thread actually fought a bard with highsun? you realize it stuns you every 3 seconds so u aren't casting anything and especially not gate if they feel like locking you down completely

As a wizard you should destroy bards highsun stuns every 3 seconds it also has 75 range and shadowsteps you. So unless you are going nowhere every shadowstep, bard still has to run in close after highsun to re-highsun which should give you enough time to draught.

There's also other spells in your arsenal that allow wizards to destroy a bard unles they have partners with them. I killed every bard on the server on sullon zek sucks you don't know your own class but I already knew that about you.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a wizard you should destroy bards highsun stuns every 3 seconds it also has 75 range and shadowsteps you. So unless you are going nowhere every shadowstep, bard still has to run in close after highsun to re-highsun which should give you enough time to draught.

There's also other spells in your arsenal that allow wizards to destroy a bard unles they have partners with them. I killed every bard on the server on sullon zek sucks you don't know your own class but I already knew that about you.

hey dawg i know ur bad as a bard hence why you made this thread im not questioning that

competent bards however can use highsun to kill any caster on the server barring a mage mayb

[Agatha]

you are all faggots who cant hack it on this server, go somewhere else.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

highsun is worthless

l o l

[mostbitter]

sell me that bard

[Gustoo]

Server needs support and refinement. I never played a bard so I will just agree with op and say that I'll hope for the best. At the very least, a bard is a very valuable support class here.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server needs support and refinement. I never played a bard so I will just agree with op and say that I'll hope for the best. At the very least, a bard is a very valuable support class here.

Don't listen to OP in this case; he really doesn't know what he's talking about.