The Bard class needs work

[Agatha]

you are all faggots who cant hack it on this server, go somewhere else.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

highsun is worthless

l o l

[mostbitter]

sell me that bard

[Gustoo]

Server needs support and refinement. I never played a bard so I will just agree with op and say that I'll hope for the best. At the very least, a bard is a very valuable support class here.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server needs support and refinement. I never played a bard so I will just agree with op and say that I'll hope for the best. At the very least, a bard is a very valuable support class here.

Don't listen to OP in this case; he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Nirgon]

Bard duo'd with pretty much anything makes people leave zones

[big league chew]

yeh highsun sux thats why its the 3rd most complained about feature right behind tstaffs & me

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Num1RecommendedByDentists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing wrong with removing every single buff on any class instantly

agree there

Do you genuinely agree? Golem wands are something everyone can use. Requires time investment camping. And AFAIK they are not rechargeable anymore. So requires more time investment again. They are no more OP than Soulfire. People without golem wands can still use pumice.

Plus you can PvP dominate the camp if your are so worried about them.

Tstaff is a permanent douchey item. And only drops for a limited number of people. Monks without it are 2cnd rate citizens and have no way to equalize themselves except trade for one.

Highsun by itself is not going to make a bard win 1v1 every single time. And you have to reach 52 to get it. Doesn't work everywhere and the enemy can counter it with their own abilities. It screws warriors and other melee but casters can gate if they don't feel like they can take a bard without buffs. *** I can understand the reason why it might need to be nerfed as a class feature for the good of the box. Since it is a free ability and coupled with bards other free abilities can lead to lamer fights. But both teams should be having a bard around for those big battles that matter. It just simplifies things into kill the healers, bard, nukers, then go for melee. Which is about where its at anyway regardless of the importance of 'highsun'.

EQ is not about balanced PvP anyway. All good encounters are group pvp. Nizzar died to group pvp in KC with me in group and the o'le eurotrash supporting <Red Dawn> nothing I know is imbalanced enough to make anyone a god when you have more then 4 people. Nizzar ganks people with trak teeth and tstaff, but he does that 1 vs 1 when people are separated. Nizzar ain't the shit, and other people have fucking tstaffs on the server.

You should consider it an honor if someone spends a charged item like trak teeth or golem wand on you to gank you. It means they don't think they can kill you any other way and must use cheap tactics.

P.S. I think Nizzar is a great guy. Don't take me using you as an example personally please =)

[Nirgon]

This is why you need to just go with the classic implementation.

Shooting for balancing every class vs every class in every scenario isn't what EQ is about. Nor should the devs here even think about spending time doing that.

There's plenty of discussion over on the Blizzard boards for WoW's arena. Should be a grand ole time if that's your thing!

I won't even provide the link because it involves going over to that site and potentially seeing something geared to the lowest common denominator. Which makes me physically ill.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Highsun by itself is not going to make a bard win 1v1 every single time. And you have to reach 52 to get it. Doesn't work everywhere and the enemy can counter it with their own abilities. It screws warriors and other melee but casters can gate if they don't feel like they can take a bard without buffs. *** I can understand the reason why it might need to be nerfed as a class feature for the good of the box. Since it is a free ability and coupled with bards other free abilities can lead to lamer fights. But both teams should be having a bard around for those big battles that matter. It just simplifies things into kill the healers, bard, nukers, then go for melee. Which is about where its at anyway regardless of the importance of 'highsun'.

has anyone in this thread actually fought a bard with highsun? you realize it stuns you every 3 seconds so u aren't casting anything and especially not gate if they feel like locking you down completely