Visited EQLive Today

[Beaniron]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90+% of the people who say EQ or WoW raids or whatever are easy are just saying that to try to convince themselves it is true so that they can feel good about themselves for being able to faceroll raidfinder difficulty at the end of a tier when everyone massively overgears the content and have finally got a decent handle on the fight mechanics after seeing them weekly (or more) for the last few months. Or so that they can feel better about NOT doing EQ raids because "it's so easy I just have a life so I don't want to put in the time!"

Just because grouping LCY with a bunch of 55s who have fungis and epics and have been playing the game for a deacde is easy doesn't mean everything you can do on p99 is easy. Just because leveling a character in WoW that you've dumped 40 enchanted BoA items onto is easy doesn't mean you've got what it takes to finish hardmodes in the current tier (let alone finish them competitively on your server, let alone your battlegroup, let alone the world).

And just because something, like dinging 60 or getting decked out or killing some raid mob, can be accomplished given enough time doesn't make it easy. Spotting a seal sniper camod on a hilltop 600 yards away isn't easy just because you could spot him given 40 hours and a pair of binoculars and him agreeing not to blow your skull open in the meantime.

Do entire raid groups really wipe if a Cleric slightly mistimes a CH?

[Gadwen]

There wasn't a well made wiki with every map, quest, item, mob and drop in the game that you could alt-tab to when EQ was released. The game is quirky, and involves understanding intended and unintended mechanics to play well. But the level of accessibility doesn't always = the level difficulty. Once you got the core mechanics down, it was more about patience and being able to find the right info or right people.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or so that they can feel better about NOT doing EQ raids because "it's so easy I just have a life so I don't want to put in the time!"

Or they are just pretending they are really hard so they feel better about the thousands of hours they have spent on a 14 year old elf simulator.

[Nune]

Originally Posted by Beaniron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do entire raid groups really wipe if a Cleric slightly mistimes a CH?

Depends, but usually Clerics in a CH chain can't miss their queue by much, and if youre the CH coming in right before a big AoE and you time it wrong, one round of melee downs the tank, etc..

The only thing I found difficult about WoW, from raiding to leveling to dungeons blah blah was the PvP. During each expansion, there was always 1 or 2 classes and 3 or 4 builds that were massivly overpowered. And since you could hit max level in a matter of weeks, these classes always got over rolled. In Vanilla there were 8000 stunlock rogues / windfury shamans, cant remember if BC or WotLK was the Pally OP box, but you get the point.

[Nune]

and lol @ this thread making EQ Live seems like a Nostalgia Museum. This is what I did on EZ Server with my pal when VZTZ folded

[Beaniron]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends, but usually Clerics in a CH chain can't miss their queue by much, and if youre the CH coming in right before a big AoE and you time it wrong, one round of melee downs the tank, etc..

The only thing I found difficult about WoW, from raiding to leveling to dungeons blah blah was the PvP. During each expansion, there was always 1 or 2 classes and 3 or 4 builds that were massivly overpowered. And since you could hit max level in a matter of weeks, these classes always got over rolled. In Vanilla there were 8000 stunlock rogues / windfury shamans, cant remember if BC or WotLK was the Pally OP box, but you get the point.

BC was the Pally OP box; they sucked in Vanilla except as healers. And they're REALLY OP in Cata thanks to WoG spam.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by Beaniron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BC was the Pally OP box; they sucked in Vanilla except as healers. And they're REALLY OP in Cata thanks to WoG spam.

What about Demo Lock in BC? I could take on 2-3 people in PvP.

[Beaniron]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about Demo Lock in BC? I could take on 2-3 people in PvP.

All Locks ever did in PvP was Fear spam. Playing a Lock or a Frostmage in PvP was easymode.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends, but usually Clerics in a CH chain can't miss their queue by much, and if youre the CH coming in right before a big AoE and you time it wrong, one round of melee downs the tank, etc..

Ummm spot healers?

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing I found difficult about WoW, from raiding to leveling to dungeons blah blah was the PvP. During each expansion, there was always 1 or 2 classes and 3 or 4 builds that were massivly overpowered. And since you could hit max level in a matter of weeks, these classes always got over rolled. In Vanilla there were 8000 stunlock rogues / windfury shamans, cant remember if BC or WotLK was the Pally OP box, but you get the point.

Character name / server?

[AdamM01]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because grouping LCY with a bunch of 55s who have fungis and epics and have been playing the game for a deacde is easy doesn't mean everything you can do on p99 is easy. Just because leveling a character in WoW that you've dumped 40 enchanted BoA items onto is easy doesn't mean you've got what it takes to finish hardmodes in the current tier (let alone finish them competitively on your server, let alone your battlegroup, let alone the world).

Just to be clear here, leveling in WoW is easy no matter if you start twinked or not. I spent all my money on my main, my alts did not have twinked gear, I obtained it all through questing, random drops, and AH when I built up enough gold. The leveling part was still a breeze. And like I said before I never said they weren't hard, I'm only talking about reaching the max level. Try to have someone who started their MMO career with WoW go back to EQ when it took 4 hours to get a bub of experience in a good group, they would probably bash their head on their keyboards.

This is not to say that just because it takes much much longer to level that makes it harder. It's the fact that you had to do everything in groups, and your zones weren't instanced like WoW so you had to deal with random trains and other players. I enjoyed the realism of it, having to compete for things and grouping. You can do everything up to the max level alone if that is what you wish in WoW which makes it an incredibly easy task to obtain max level.