What is "Poofing" to Sirken?

[ymw]

I doubt Sirken is going to be hunting down monks that are clearing aggro.

It doesn't need to be some overly complicated 10-page essay explaining exactly what is and isn't okay. Some common sense can/should apply here.

If you go LD and you go through your normal login process, but an IP exemption gets you in a few seconds sooner, you're probably okay. If you are being trained in VP and use a second computer parked at the login screen to instantly boot yourself in the face of certain death, you're cheating.

[quido]

The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.

Why would anyone /q while having aggro? If it's so as to be saved by relogging fast, this is an exploit. Sorry, but I don't see your point.

Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "those 10 seconds save my feign". Like FDing between AE casts from a dragon? That's not possible unless you had another client ready to log in. Which means you're using the fast login mechanism and IP exemption to drop earlier from game. In that case, you obviously know you're abusing it.

Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro, if you plan to relog soon after

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro

I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.

Indeed, pathing aggro isn't what I meant. Aggro as in being actively attacked / pursued / spell cast upon.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch

I wouldn't call this harmless considering the huge advantage it gives to people with IP exemptions on highly contested targets. Being someone without an exemption, I know I envy those with valid or falsified reasons to have one.

[Metallikus]

This the root of the conversation:

Originally Posted by Susano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all suspected it, but we were asked to "Prove it" multiple times.

Here is proof.

TMO, known cheaters of p99 and all around assbags of the community.

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I know VP is a no CS zone, but I feel this is a little over the top.

Why is aiuas (zeelot) allowed to circumvent server rules and policies?

Why does Sirken say "from now on I dont want to see any cheating" when the rules were already in place?
Why would this guy not receive the punishment deserved?
The rules are clearly written that abuse results in ban. THe fraps shows clear abuse. WHy no ban?

[quido]

maybe because sirken isn't dumb and knows lots of people across multiple guilds have abused this

glad to see the rules being straightened out - hopefully staff can continue to be pro-active with some positive changes

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe because sirken isn't dumb and knows lots of people across multiple guilds have abused this

glad to see the rules being straightened out - hopefully staff can continue to be pro-active with some positive changes

multiple guilds have done many things against the rules. Everytime they get caught, they are supposed to be dealt with according to the rules. Two wrongs dont make it right. There is evidence of abuse, deal out the appropriate punishment.

Raid guilds have been raid suspended many times. Many of the members have been suspended many times. Why all of a sudden when zeelot's character gets caught in the act, we have to have some big step back and be lenient and not punish the offender for the crime he was caught doing.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

multiple guilds have done many things against the rules. Everytime they get caught, they are supposed to be dealt with according to the rules. Two wrongs dont make it right. There is evidence of abuse, deal out the appropriate punishment.

Raid guilds have been raid suspended many times. Many of the members have been suspended many times. Why all of a sudden when zeelot's character gets caught in the act, we have to have some big step back and be lenient and not punish the offender for the crime he was caught doing.

It's called ex post facto, "after the fact". The rule was not enforced previously, to start enforcing it out of the blue with no warning is not fair and unconstitutional. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The warning has been made, the GMs have come in and said it will be enforced, from this point forward be sure to report any you see and you can die a happy man knowing that GMs care.