Why don't you....

[mwatt]

I voted, "I dont' like the people or... etc.".

You didn't have the one option that makes the most sense to me and for a lot of other people. Maybe it just is unthinkable to you, but the truth is:

I just plain don't like PVP, of any shape or form, in any computer game.

Full truth be told, I hate it more in EQ than anywhere else. Why? Because Everquest is just about the best damn computer game ever created. To play PVP in it would ruin it.... it is no longer Everquest, more like EverQuake.

So I suppose, like some others, I really needed to vote a combination of option 2 and 3.

And btw, you may as well not even try - there is absolutely nothing you can change about red to change my mind about red - unless you make it a second blue server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Droog007]

Other: I have enjoyed EQ PvP in the past (although my brother and I didn't stick with it for very long). But if I want to play with my wife, it must be on a blue server. She gets stressed out too easily by griefing. She had to remove herself just the other day when some jagoff stole our camp and trained us - so red ain't happening.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Add option : PvP was an afterthought of the developers at best.

I don't think this is exactly true... Becoming "red" on a blue server had basically the same mechanics as the MUDs that came before, where you gave up your "guardian angel" and became killable by other players. I belonged to an "undead" guild on one such MUD where you were required to go PK...

The problem was that so few people on any one server were interested in it... so it needed its own server to achieve critical mass. Plus it was a nifty way to get some "replayability" out of their current product.

I don't think they ever expected it would be "fair" or "balanced"... EQ by its nature was a cruel bitch of a game, why should the PvP flavor be any different?

[Seredoc]

PvP only breeds trolls and griefers. If it were forced teams or something other than Rallos rules then maybe, but this FFA "join us or be camped" mindset is terrible. I could just imagine trying to raid there, let alone leveling. Everyone on blue PL's, so how much harder is it to turn that PL into a corpse camp? No thank you.

[fadetree]

I like PvP. But not EQ PvP.

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wanted to click a couple options but...

I voted that I do not like EverQuest PvP. Let's face it... it's crap and always has been. The classes are just too imbalanced at this point in EQ's timeline for PvP to truly be about player skill vs skill.

Another reason is the "type of player" drawn to this incarnation of red. There's no fun in being curbstomped because you like to play your normal class, and it sucks in low-level PvP, and then having your killer act like it was a matter of skill, experience and sagacity. Like a teenage punk that shoves an old man and claims to have "kicked his ass". Maybe it's possible that post L20 this is less of an issue and that EQ red is like the fans say: "Solve your own problems! Oh people end up being good guys and reputation keeps people in check". I doubt it. I won't play alongside griefers.

And of course, with my and my wife's playstyle (slow as hell), I'd rather not reaccrue the plat it would take for me to get all the goodies I have on blue.

Speaking for me and me alone, the "recruitment drives" of red players in blue forums also turned me off for good. It's a gut reaction, but seeing folks in desperation to save a server means I just don't want to get into it at all.

Just wait for mana burn c:

[HippoNipple]

The low population is a problem but it can also be nice having all the spawns you want. This can be fixed by joining the server with a couple friends. There have actually been several newbie guilds starting up lately as well.

The game is much more competitive which does bring out the crazies. That is unfortunate but it comes with the territory. The server is also much harsher due to PvP exp penalty on death, but it has been made clear that this this is changing, hopefully soon. I think the penalties from death piss people off a lot and brings on some hate.

There is also an exp bonus on the server that tries to help with the low amount of groups. It is currently scaled from 1-50 plus an all around 25% bonus from 1-60... there is some hope that this might go back up to 75% bonus.

Everything means more on red, death and accomplishments. Everything is yours for the taking.

One of the things that makes Everquest great for me is that you have the freedom to do whatever you want. I don't get that freedom on blue and restrictions take the power away from the player. On Red you get to choose who you associate with, who are your enemies, and what your reputation will be. I'm sure reputation means something on blue but not to the same degree.

[Nogdar]

Voted last option : Would play if it were a Team PVP server rather than all-pvp server (i.e. Tallon/Vallon Zek as opposed to Rallos Zek).